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Title: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 31, 2023, 08:40:24 PM
After Patel, another set of bullying


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64470946
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 07, 2023, 07:01:21 PM


And the new deputy chairman


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/07/lee-anderson-tory-deputy-chair-one-man-controversy-machine
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on February 09, 2023, 04:07:09 PM
Rishi is just out of touch, he's out of trains.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/feb/09/lee-anderson-conservatives-deputy-chair-rishi-sunak-uk-politics-latest?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-63e4e85d8f0827de5749084f#block-63e4e85d8f0827de5749084f  (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/feb/09/lee-anderson-conservatives-deputy-chair-rishi-sunak-uk-politics-latest?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-63e4e85d8f0827de5749084f#block-63e4e85d8f0827de5749084f)

  Flying from Dorset to London and then to Cornwall, couldn't  even be bothered  to look at a map. Much less read one.
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on February 09, 2023, 04:13:02 PM

And the new deputy chairperson.
https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/2023/02/08/lee-andersons-appointment-is-a-tory-attempt-to-grind-us-down-but-we-need-to-stay-angry/content.html
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He is the latest example of a figure on the Tory benches who has managed to reach the upper echelons of public life specifically by being stupid
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 09, 2023, 04:28:59 PM
What is going on with Raab here?


https://twitter.com/mattgrantsky/status/1623328741878292481?t=xafyldkjwQ9nVWiINNofZw&s=19





Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Udayana on February 09, 2023, 05:47:55 PM
https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/2023/02/08/lee-andersons-appointment-is-a-tory-attempt-to-grind-us-down-but-we-need-to-stay-angry/content.html He is the latest example of a figure on the Tory benches who has managed to reach the upper echelons of public life specifically by being stupid

(btw. you have no space between your link and the following "He" which stops it working)

I entirely agree - this arse has been put in position because of his stupidity. The aim is to spark anger and ire at his, superficially "man on the street" but ludicrous, declarations, but directed at him and his supposed "red wall" followers - leaving the rest of the thieving, incompetent, and "careless" bunch free from the brunt of opposition and public scrutiny.
     
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 09, 2023, 06:08:57 PM
https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/2023/02/08/lee-andersons-appointment-is-a-tory-attempt-to-grind-us-down-but-we-need-to-stay-angry/content.html He is the latest example of a figure on the Tory benches who has managed to reach the upper echelons of public life specifically by being stupid
Moderator: post edited to make it work, here and in Udayana's reply
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Gordon on February 09, 2023, 06:32:24 PM
This twat seems to be a dinosaurial fuckwit - still, his appointment might aid the demise of Scumbags-R-Us (formally known as the Conservative and Unionist Pary).
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Gordon on February 09, 2023, 07:17:55 PM
John Crace's view.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/09/bring-back-hanging-and-real-men-making-the-tories-great-again-by-lee-anderson
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on February 09, 2023, 07:24:24 PM
(btw. you have no space between your link and the following "He" which stops it working)

I entirely agree - this arse has been put in position because of his stupidity. The aim is to spark anger and ire at his, superficially "man on the street" but ludicrous, declarations, but directed at him and his supposed "red wall" followers - leaving the rest of the thieving, incompetent, and "careless" bunch free from the brunt of opposition and public scrutiny.
     
Thanks, I think I've sorted it out now, so hopefully it is working...? (It did  work for me, I use Firefox, don't know who is using it or why it isn't working 🤔)
(Beaten to the posts by the mods. :-[ )

It's not because had enough of experts. It's  because we've had enough of knee-jerking idiots blabbering around imagining their knees think more than brains.
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 10, 2023, 02:22:11 PM
While I am not a fan of 30p Lee, I think the outcry about his support of the death penalty a bit odd. I don't see that his support for it should preclude him being deputy Chairman of the Tories.
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on February 10, 2023, 08:02:12 PM
While I am not a fan of 30p Lee, I think the outcry about his support of the death penalty a bit odd. I don't see that his support for it should preclude him being deputy Chairman of the Tories.
There are quite few ways can vary from party to party. If an MP votes against the party's policy they get their whip removed (& can't stand again in that party, until they do get it back).Even the Tawdry party's policy doesn't  support the death penalty (well this gov'mt doesn't). So far it's  just something he's  said, not something  he's  campaigning for.If there was a sudden vote, he could be kicked out the cabinet, but probably not the party (if he votes in favour, but there are loads of ifs, which seems unlikely).(http://img]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/feb/09/ben-jennings-on-the-pm-offering-up-his-new-deputy-chairman-cartoon?CMP=share_btn_link)(http://[color=rgb(0, 0, 0)][font=sans-serif][size=large]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/feb/09/ben-jennings-on-the-pm-offering-up-his-new-deputy-chairman-cartoon?CMP=share_btn_link[/size][/font][/color])(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/feb/09/ben-jennings-on-the-pm-offering-up-his-new-deputy-chairman-cartoon#img-1)
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 10, 2023, 08:08:56 PM
There are quite few ways can vary from party to party. If an MP votes against the party's policy they get their whip removed (& can't stand again in that party, until they do get it back).Even the Tawdry party's policy doesn't  support the death penalty (well this gov'mt doesn't). So far it's  just something he's  said, not something  he's  campaigning for.If there was a sudden vote, he could be kicked out the cabinet, but probably not the party (if he votes in favour, but there are loads of ifs, which seems unlikely).(http://img]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/feb/09/ben-jennings-on-the-pm-offering-up-his-new-deputy-chairman-cartoon?CMP=share_btn_link)(http://[color=rgb(0, 0, 0)][font=sans-serif][size=large]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/feb/09/ben-jennings-on-the-pm-offering-up-his-new-deputy-chairman-cartoon?CMP=share_btn_link[/size][/font][/color])(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/feb/09/ben-jennings-on-the-pm-offering-up-his-new-deputy-chairman-cartoon#img-1)
I would suspect any vote on the death penalty would not be whipped in the Tories. It's not certainly not party policy to do so at the moment. I still don't see why his view would preclude him from being deputy chair of the Tories
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 13, 2023, 05:18:36 PM
Oh err

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee-anderson-libel-food-banks-b2281282.html
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on February 13, 2023, 07:29:18 PM
Oh err

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee-anderson-libel-food-banks-b2281282.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee-anderson-libel-food-banks-b2281282.html)
If you'd watched The Last Leg (on Ch4 last Friday), they worked out that his 30p meals were based on a chef cooking meals for a vast number of (charity?) recipients*.
About the only ways he'd be sacked would be if he announced that he had no confidence in 'that short-ar$ed <insert racial term here>, or voted against a three-line whip. About the closest that could (/ have been/ was etc) be was Truss' fracking vote, so there are plenty of ifs but it does seem unlikely  (for now).* - IIRC it was 170 people. My guess would be that in total it would  (c) £50, possibly including the heating, but probably not his wages or any rent.(https://images.app.goo.gl/eXMx2ykUutbNr2wa6)
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on February 13, 2023, 07:33:32 PM
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a6139a644dca4e6985bdbac6dd0ea7d4900f7b44/2_0_3031_1819/master/3031.jpg?width=300&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=4987bce067ffd6b9d245fd8405549093)
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on February 14, 2023, 10:45:02 AM
How much does it cost when a toddler wants to ride a tank?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/14/liz-truss-oversaw-jump-in-credit-card-spending-at-foreign-office (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/14/liz-truss-oversaw-jump-in-credit-card-spending-at-foreign-office)(https://images.app.goo.gl/o2XGDKzMT75zTxH7A)(https://images.app.goo.gl/o2XGDKzMT75zTxH7A)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNcKHfP71SjSM0qQgzTNkWPjNH3X_MLRaBOM_SVbuDuuxsoeY&s)Priceless.


(https://images.app.goo.gl/o2XGDKzMT75zTxH7A)
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on March 01, 2023, 07:44:07 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64807127 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64807127)
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Former Health Secretary Matt Hancock has disputed claims he failed to follow expert advice on Covid tests for people going into care homes
This is an exclusive report from the Torygraph.
Maybe he's guilty that he fell in love?
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on March 09, 2023, 09:30:03 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/08/boris-johnson-warned-dominic-raab-about-his-conduct-report-claims (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/08/boris-johnson-warned-dominic-raab-about-his-conduct-report-claims)
What did he say? "Whatever you do, don't get caught"?
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on April 12, 2023, 04:43:36 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/12/matt-hancock-among-three-mps-being-investigated-by-standards-watchdog (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/12/matt-hancock-among-three-mps-being-investigated-by-standards-watchdog)
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Hancock is being looked into over allegations he broke the MPs’ code of conduct
...the Blackpool South MP, Scott Benton, is being investigated for use of his parliamentary email. It comes a week after Benton was caught offering to lobby ministers and get early access to a sensitive government report for up to £4,000 a month...
Henry Smith, a backbench Tory MP for 13 years, is also being investigated for an alleged breach of the rules on using taxpayer-funded stationery.

And Now, Time for something  completely different...

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Dominic Raab could face action for contempt of court,
Eerr...Yep. ???

 https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/11/dominic-raab-could-face-action-for-contempt-of-court-judges-say
 
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on April 15, 2023, 09:51:39 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/14/tory-mps-at-risk-losing-seats-allowed-stand-other-constituencies-next-election
Try to remember,  they're  moving from one job and taking others away. Hoping they'll  have a better life. Just Stop the Votes.
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on April 17, 2023, 07:15:56 PM


(See almost any other thread for a link on ch4 new atm.)
Rishi Sunak faces further questions over his family’s financial interests after a standards investigation was launched into a potential breach of transparency rules relating to his links to a childcare firm in which his wife is an investor.
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on April 26, 2023, 06:50:02 PM
Tories lie. Again.
https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/2023/04/26/local-elections-2023-lib-dems-demand-inquiry-after-tory-leaflets-tell-voters-they-do-not-need-id-to-vote/content.html
Every f'ing chance they get they lie and lie and lie
That voted for it  Every other party voted against.

Scum.
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on May 19, 2023, 04:20:49 PM
I've received  an email stating that marriage allowance will be cancelled  on the 5 April 2024. So now the tories love cutting taxes and they're  quite fond of marriages. But now they're  going to scrap a tax bonus that is (was/ will be) for married working people, just before a general election?

Don't  they just really love self- flagelation?
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: jeremyp on May 19, 2023, 05:14:40 PM
I've received  an email stating that marriage allowance will be cancelled  on the 5 April 2024. So now the tories love cutting taxes and they're  quite fond of marriages. But now they're  going to scrap a tax bonus that is (was/ will be) for married working people, just before a general election?

Don't  they just really love self- flagelation?

I can't find anything on line to suggest that the marriage allowance is being scrapped. Are you sure it isn't some sort of scam?
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on May 19, 2023, 06:54:49 PM
I can't find anything on line to suggest that the marriage allowance is being scrapped. Are you sure it isn't some sort of scam?
Seems legit to me, I've tried copying and pasting the text but I keep getting an error.The mail is from; noreply@tax.service.gov.uk
(It also states there's  no need to contact them, so it's  pretty clear it's not a scam.)
Title: Re: And tawdry Tory behaviour
Post by: SqueakyVoice on May 19, 2023, 07:16:28 PM
This the text from the email,
"Your Marriage Allowance will be cancelled on 5 April 2024, at the end of the current tax year.
"If your partner pays tax through PAYE, we’ll change their tax code and send them notification of their new tax code in the post. We’ll tell their employer and your Marriage Allowance will stop when they begin using this new code from the start of the new tax year on 6 April 2024. "If they complete a Self Assessment tax return, we’ll remove Marriage Allowance at the end of the current tax year on 5 April 2024. Their Personal Allowance will be adjusted on 6 April 2024.There’s no need to contact us. You can check the status of your Marriage Allowance on your personal tax account by clicking the link below.
www.gov.uk/personal-tax-account (http://www.gov.uk/personal-tax-account)"
(that link is working btw) I can't  find any links saying the same thing, maybe some other members could verify it?