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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on February 27, 2023, 06:59:01 AM

Title: Four Wakefield pupils suspended after Quran damaged at school
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 27, 2023, 06:59:01 AM

Ffs!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-64757799.amp

Title: Re: Four Wakefield pupils suspended after Quran damaged at school
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 03, 2023, 04:14:04 PM

NSS take on it


https://www.secularism.org.uk/opinion/2023/02/we-need-to-normalise-blasphemy

Title: Re: Four Wakefield pupils suspended after Quran damaged at school
Post by: The Accountant, OBE, KC on March 03, 2023, 07:04:09 PM

Quote from: Nearly Sane on March 03, 2023, 04:14:04 PM

NSS take on it


https://www.secularism.org.uk/opinion/2023/02/we-need-to-normalise-blasphemy

I would agree with a lot of this. But does the same "right to free expression" and "need to inculcate an understanding in all British citizens that life in tolerant, plural societies entails debate, disagreements and having your sensibilities offended from time to time. " extend to verbal objections to LGBTQ sensibilities and what is perceived as racism or sexism if you verbally express objections to certain behaviours? If not, why not?

I heard an Imam on LBC saying the police should never have been involved and this was blown out of proportion. Another Muslim also rang in to agree with the imam.

On the other hand, I am not sure if these particular community leaders are worried based on perceived Islamophobic incidents in society that these kind of incidents at school might escalate to more provocative behaviour that could lead to verbal bullying of Muslim pupils. It's not hard to figure out what buttons to press if you want to offend someone religious or gay or transgender or female or of a different race. Apparently, people who get upset at the thought of someone treating something they consider sacred with disrespect don't choose to feel upset. So not sure how to we go about teaching school children how to cope with feeling offended in our current world of safe spaces and trigger-warnings.

Title: Re: Four Wakefield pupils suspended after Quran damaged at school
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 03, 2023, 07:38:58 PM

Quote from: Violent Gabriella on March 03, 2023, 07:04:09 PM

I would agree with a lot of this. But does the same "right to free expression" and "need to inculcate an understanding in all British citizens that life in tolerant, plural societies entails debate, disagreements and having your sensibilities offended from time to time. " extend to verbal objections to LGBTQ sensibilities and what is perceived as racism or sexism if you verbally express objections to certain behaviours? If not, why not?

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Not sure what the NSS would say though it might be seen as outwith their remit but for me I'd happily agree with your extension

Title: Re: Four Wakefield pupils suspended after Quran damaged at school
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 10, 2023, 10:02:29 AM

So the new promised guidelines aren't going to happen


https://archive.vn/cPG4B