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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2023, 09:07:34 AM

Title: French pension reforms: Is Macron's government doomed by crisis?
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2023, 09:07:34 AM: I have a friend, an American in Paris, who would be regarded as quite left wing for an American, who is finding his views of trade unions being challenged by what's happening in France.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64986741
Title: Re: French pension reforms: Is Macron's government doomed by crisis?
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 24, 2023, 02:36:18 AM: And the protests continue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65057249
Title: Re: French pension reforms: Is Macron's government doomed by crisis?
Post by: jeremyp on March 24, 2023, 12:24:18 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2023, 09:07:34 AM
I have a friend, an American in Paris, who would be regarded as quite left wing for an American, who is finding his views of trade unions being challenged by what's happening in France.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64986741

In what way are his views being challenged? Is he for them and thinks these protests are misguided or is he against them but approving of the way they are fighting for workers' rights?
Title: Re: French pension reforms: Is Macron's government doomed by crisis?
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 24, 2023, 01:05:44 PM: Quote from: jeremyp on March 24, 2023, 12:24:18 PM
In what way are his views being challenged? Is he for them and thinks these protests are misguided or is he against them but approving of the way they are fighting for workers' rights?
He's in favour of unions but isn't necessarily seeing thay either the subject or the methods are reasonable. Ot's much more political in terms of the fight than sranding up fpr doughty workers in his USican view.
Title: Re: French pension reforms: Is Macron's government doomed by crisis?
Post by: Aruntraveller on March 24, 2023, 02:40:57 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on March 24, 2023, 01:05:44 PM
He's in favour of unions but isn't necessarily seeing thay either the subject or the methods are reasonable. Ot's much more political in terms of the fight than standing up for doughty workers in his USican view.

Was it reasonable of Macron to push a law through using 49:3 without due process?

I have to say I somewhat admire the French workers and their attitude. By comparison their neighbours seem very lily-livered.
Title: Re: French pension reforms: Is Macron's government doomed by crisis?
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 24, 2023, 02:53:44 PM: Quote from: Aruntraveller on March 24, 2023, 02:40:57 PM
Was it reasonable of Macron to push a law through using 49:3 without due process?

I have to say I somewhat admire the French workers and their attitude. By comparison their neighbours seem very lily-livered.
No, he was shocked by that as well. I did find it that someone who was in the States for the Trump presidency being shocked by such things a little odd. But he hadn"t expected the battle to be so purely political.

There is a Scots word thrawn and it reminds me of the French here.
Title: Re: French pension reforms: Is Macron's government doomed by crisis?
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 25, 2023, 07:52:47 AM: First there's a watch then there's no watch... politics is very mad at the moment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65069823