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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2023, 10:38:30 AM

Title: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2023, 10:38:30 AM: And on further good news for popcorn producers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65001385
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 21, 2023, 04:21:23 PM: Ffs!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65012965
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Aruntraveller on March 21, 2023, 04:28:27 PM: Marina Hyde on good form. Did the habitual liar, lie?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/21/boris-johnson-lies-standards-committee-partygate
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: jeremyp on March 22, 2023, 11:37:16 AM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on March 21, 2023, 04:21:23 PM
Ffs!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65012965

So what am I supposed to believe? My only two options seem to be

1. he is lying

2. he is too stupid to understand the laws that he put in place.

A good analogy I read on another site is that it is as if he was caught doing 60 in a 30 limit and then claimed he acted "in good faith" because nobody pointed out the 30 limit signs to him. Yet it was he who erected the signs the day before.
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Dicky Underpants on March 22, 2023, 12:16:55 PM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on March 19, 2023, 10:38:30 AM
And on further good news for popcorn producers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65001385
Interesting that his defending barrister will be Lord Pannick, the very lawyer who led the prosecution against Johnson over the illegal proroguing of parliament. We're led to expect that lawyers can perform extreme psychological gymnastics, but one would like to think that they're more prone to take on cases which they actually believe in. Particularly when they can afford to pick and choose.
Pannick is notorious for his high fees, but we know Boris has various unorthodox ways of appropriating money.
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Udayana on March 22, 2023, 12:50:34 PM: Quote from: Dicky Underpants on March 22, 2023, 12:16:55 PM
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Pannick is notorious for his high fees, but we know Boris has various unorthodox ways of appropriating money.

I read that the legal fees for Johnson's defence are government funded.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/22/boris-johnson-in-line-for-more-taxpayers-money-for-partygate-defence
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 22, 2023, 08:35:26 PM: This from Ian Smart hits home

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1638633938733223941.html
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Aruntraveller on March 22, 2023, 09:09:05 PM: One of the main takeaways for me is that 10 Downing Street is simultaneously so small that everyone has to work on top of each other, yet so large that you don't hear parties being held.

As convincing a defence as I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 23, 2023, 06:55:50 AM: Indeed
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Gordon on March 23, 2023, 08:09:02 AM: John Crace hit the spot, as usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/22/impervious-to-advice-or-rules-johnson-held-up-the-shield-of-stupidity
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 23, 2023, 09:28:11 AM: .
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: jeremyp on March 24, 2023, 12:11:47 PM: Fiona Bruce took an audience vote last night

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-65064708

The audience in Question Time is not selected at random but they try to get a balance of political viewpoints.

Not one person thought Boris Johnson was telling the truth.
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: SqueakyVoice on March 24, 2023, 04:27:38 PM: I visited Newcastle a long time ago.

Sorry, Newcastle-Under-Lyme.
Title: Re: Boris Johnson: Ex-PM to reveal evidence in his defence over Partygate
Post by: SqueakyVoice on March 24, 2023, 04:47:58 PM: Quote from: Aruntraveller on March 22, 2023, 09:09:05 PM
One of the main takeaways for me is that 10 Downing Street is simultaneously so small that everyone has to work on top of each other, ...
Some worked so hard, they had sex in the Cabinets. Because there were working so hard for the Cabinet Secretary.

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As convincing a defence as I've ever heard.
6words; It was The. Cab.In.Net.