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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on April 28, 2023, 09:02:12 PM

Title: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 28, 2023, 09:02:12 PM

Be surprised if the coronation helps

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/28/public-support-monarchy-historic-low-poll-reveals
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Post by: Aruntraveller on April 28, 2023, 09:24:14 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/28/nottingham-public-indifferent-to-king-charles-coronation

This makes me strangely proud of my home city.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Gordon on April 28, 2023, 09:35:37 PM
For me - it's a definite naw.

I'd disenfranchise the lot of them before the horses next get hitched to golden coaches.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 29, 2023, 11:47:51 PM
And in this case it's a definite fuck off
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Gordon on April 30, 2023, 07:39:57 AM
Yep - they can just fuck off to fuckity-fuck, and take their fucking monarchy with them.



Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Sebastian Toe on April 30, 2023, 10:32:00 AM
Shut the fuck up.
Shut all the way the fuck up.
Until you reach the top of Shut Fuck mountain.
 Where there are no more fuck-ups to shut.

https://youtu.be/3GbwpsUYjxU
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 01, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
Tesco's apparently
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Post by: Nearly Sane on May 01, 2023, 12:41:24 PM
Not often Celtic fans get it right for me but they do here


https://youtube.com/shorts/hG2_glLsFRM?feature=share
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Post by: jeremyp on May 01, 2023, 03:32:11 PM
Getting rid of the monarchy will have no effect on any of our lives. At least they provide some entertainment and extra bank holidays.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Sriram on May 04, 2023, 07:47:59 AM


Charles has acquired a good aura lately. He looks quite serious, calm and in control. Good for him!
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 04, 2023, 07:54:12 AM

Charles has acquired a good aura lately. He looks quite serious, calm and in control. Good for him!
Did he get it at the middle aisle in Aldi?
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 04, 2023, 08:46:03 AM

Charles has acquired a good aura lately. He looks quite serious, calm and in control. Good for him!
I suspect he's been knobbled by his minders after the car wreck first few days of double petulant pen-gate.

I doubt there has been any change in his basic personality, which I gather tends towards irritability, petulance and entitlement.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 05, 2023, 10:09:42 AM
Does Chuck want the pledge of allegiance nonsense,


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65493188
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Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 05, 2023, 10:36:38 AM
Does Chuck want the pledge of allegiance nonsense,


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65493188
I cannot imagine he won't have known/signed off on this.

I think the issue is that is has gone down like a bucket of cold sick and/or a complete laughing stock. So what we are seeing is a rapid reverse ferret from the royals via their regular mouthpiece to try to distance themselves from it.

Problem is that the royals are so buffered from the real world that they really don't get what ordinary people think.

I think another major gaffe is trying to portray the coronation as being 'pared down'. The problem is that very few people are old enough to remember the last one, so have absolutely no reference point. So for most people the notion that is 'pared down' is completely unintelligible as they have nothing to compare it with - however we can all see something that looks astonishingly over the top (claimed biggest security ever), gold coaches a-go-go, crowns covered in pilfered jewels etc etc. And all the while we are in the middle of the worst cost of living crisis most people can remember. 
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 05, 2023, 10:50:01 AM
I cannot imagine he won't have known/signed off on this.

I think the issue is that is has gone down like a bucket of cold sick and/or a complete laughing stock. So what we are seeing is a rapid reverse ferret from the royals via their regular mouthpiece to try to distance themselves from it.

Problem is that the royals are so buffered from the real world that they really don't get what ordinary people think.

I think another major gaffe is trying to portray the coronation as being 'pared down'. The problem is that very few people are old enough to remember the last one, so have absolutely no reference point. So for most people the notion that is 'pared down' is completely unintelligible as they have nothing to compare it with - however we can all see something that looks astonishingly over the top (claimed biggest security ever), gold coaches a-go-go, crowns covered in pilfered jewels etc etc. And all the while we are in the middle of the worst cost of living crisis most people can remember.

It should, of course, be easy enough for him to stop it of he does object.

And yes, the idea of it being 'pared down' is a bad joke.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Aruntraveller on May 05, 2023, 10:54:39 AM
I'm already heartily sick of it.

Just had my coffee and thought I'd try and catch up on the local elections and tuned into BBC2 because the guide said "Elections 2023" only to be faced with sycophantic presenters babbling on about the coronation, and a trio of women singing something apalling in connection with the coronation (not sure what as my finger quickly moved to mute).

I know this is bad form but I really hope it pisses down for the  whole weekend.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 05, 2023, 11:55:49 AM
It should, of course, be easy enough for him to stop it of he does object.
I think he only objects because of the ridicule it has received from the general public. Apparently Welby was all over the plans to - surprising that an Eton and Cambridge educated chap might misjudge the public mood ;)
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 05, 2023, 12:56:00 PM
Indeed
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Gordon on May 05, 2023, 02:44:56 PM
This Welby guy seems like nothing more than an obsequious sycophant - no wonder some of us find the whole thing nauseating.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 05, 2023, 03:58:53 PM
This Welby guy seems like nothing more than an obsequious sycophant - no wonder some of us find the whole thing nauseating.
But one pillar of the establishment loves the other pillars - because they know that through that approach they can maintain their stranglehold on the levers of power (both hard and soft) in the UK.

It is genuinely horrifying that into the 21stC we had a situation where the PM, the ABofC and the Mayor of London were all old school chums - indeed at one point all three were.
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 05, 2023, 04:06:18 PM


https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/vandals-mow-giant-penis-royal-8411948
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Post by: Dicky Underpants on May 05, 2023, 04:14:31 PM

https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/vandals-mow-giant-penis-royal-8411948

Odd that one explanation of the Cerne Abbas Giant's appendage was that it was meant to take the piss out of Oliver Cromwell (no royalist he, I believe :) )
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 05, 2023, 04:22:10 PM
Odd that one explanation of the Cerne Abbas Giant's appendage was that it was meant to take the piss out of Oliver Cromwell (no royalist he, I believe :) )
All authority figures are pricks?
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Stranger on May 06, 2023, 10:13:40 AM
More democratic rights abused by this disgraceful excuse for a government:

Anti-monarchy group Republic's chief arrested at Coronation protest (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65507435).
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 06, 2023, 11:08:09 AM
Edinburgh
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Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 06, 2023, 11:12:21 AM
Edinburgh
I though the WHO had just declared that the COVID19 emergency was over so we didn't need to social distance anymore ;)
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 06, 2023, 01:08:49 PM


https://youtu.be/ZtYU87QNjPw
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Post by: Nearly Sane on May 06, 2023, 01:53:06 PM
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Post by: Steve H on May 06, 2023, 05:53:01 PM
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Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 07, 2023, 03:10:58 PM
More democratic rights abused by this disgraceful excuse for a government:

Anti-monarchy group Republic's chief arrested at Coronation protest (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65507435).

Labour apparently not going to repeal anti-protest laws


https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1655172977120428034?t=a-ag8OSagPWOu7IEGm2pOg&s=19
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Aruntraveller on May 08, 2023, 12:02:54 PM
Excellent from Nesrine Malik:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/08/coronation-desperate-nation-rotten-system
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 08, 2023, 09:57:39 PM
All fine, bit of regret


https://news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-regrets-arrest-of-anti-monarch-group-leader-and-five-others-before-coronation-12876663
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Post by: Nearly Sane on May 09, 2023, 02:00:54 PM
The Labour Party's continual inability to get off the fence is deeply disappointing

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/09/met-police-royal-protesters-cells-force
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Udayana on May 10, 2023, 12:50:43 PM
All fine, bit of regret


https://news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-regrets-arrest-of-anti-monarch-group-leader-and-five-others-before-coronation-12876663

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65537069

I just don't believe the stuff they've come out with about having information that "protesters would use rape alarms, possible lock-on devices, loud hailers and vandalise monuments during the procession" - and worse - about attempts to panic horses and so on. What information  did they have  and where did they get it?

How did they verify that it was not false information - possibly planted by government stooges?

Rowley comes across as a Met/government apologist - and completely ineffectual at the job, to clean up the Met, that he was brought in for.
 
 
Title: Re: Monarchy? Mebbes aye, mebbes naw
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 23, 2023, 08:12:23 PM
 Superb


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65684694