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Title: Maths snore
Post by: Steve H on May 15, 2023, 01:57:30 PM
By the time I was half-way through, I was thinking "who fkn cares?" - and the government wnat to inflict this shite on all kids till they're 18!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zqgb9ty?at_mid=9FEtve4L6q&at_campaign=Triangle_Maths_Challenge&at_medium=display_ad&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_origin=promo_box&at_audience_id=TV&at_product=bitesize&at_ptr_name=bbc&at_ptr_type=media&at_format=image&at_objective=consumption&at_link_title=Triangle_Maths_Challenge&at_bbc_team=BBC
Title: Re: Maths snore
Post by: Outrider on May 15, 2023, 02:15:34 PM
By the time I was half-way through, I was thinking "who fkn cares?" - and the government wnat to inflict this shite on all kids till they're 18!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zqgb9ty?at_mid=9FEtve4L6q&at_campaign=Triangle_Maths_Challenge&at_medium=display_ad&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_origin=promo_box&at_audience_id=TV&at_product=bitesize&at_ptr_name=bbc&at_ptr_type=media&at_format=image&at_objective=consumption&at_link_title=Triangle_Maths_Challenge&at_bbc_team=BBC

It remains to be seen what will be put on the proposed post-16 'core' maths curriculum, but the maths teachers and Head-Teachers that I know are of the opinion that it needs to include how tax works (ratios, percentages, compound interest), basic statistics (conventions for bar charts and the like) and probability.

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Title: Re: Maths snore
Post by: jeremyp on May 15, 2023, 04:18:18 PM
By the time I was half-way through, I was thinking "who fkn cares?" - and the government wnat to inflict this shite on all kids till they're 18!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zqgb9ty?at_mid=9FEtve4L6q&at_campaign=Triangle_Maths_Challenge&at_medium=display_ad&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_origin=promo_box&at_audience_id=TV&at_product=bitesize&at_ptr_name=bbc&at_ptr_type=media&at_format=image&at_objective=consumption&at_link_title=Triangle_Maths_Challenge&at_bbc_team=BBC
In what way is it shite? It's just a series of mathematical puzzles relating to triangle angles. For the right age group, there's nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: Maths snore
Post by: jeremyp on May 15, 2023, 04:20:59 PM
It remains to be seen what will be put on the proposed post-16 'core' maths curriculum, but the maths teachers and Head-Teachers that I know are of the opinion that it needs to include how tax works (ratios, percentages, compound interest), basic statistics (conventions for bar charts and the like) and probability.

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Seems like a good idea to me. Everybody needs to know some statistics.
Title: Re: Maths snore
Post by: Aruntraveller on May 15, 2023, 04:27:30 PM
Seems like a good idea to me. Everybody needs to know some statistics.

Just not the ones that are damned lies. 
Title: Re: Maths snore
Post by: jeremyp on May 15, 2023, 04:32:42 PM
Just not the ones that are damned lies.

Statistics done correctly is not lies. The problem is that it is easy to do them wrong or misrepresent them. It's also easy to spot the wrongness but only if you ave a base understanding of statistics.
Title: Re: Maths snore
Post by: Udayana on May 15, 2023, 04:58:47 PM
Statistics done correctly is not lies. The problem is that it is easy to do them wrong or misrepresent them. It's also easy to spot the wrongness but only if you ave a base understanding of statistics.

I suspect they would learn enough to lie with them rather than "do" them correctly.
Title: Re: Maths snore
Post by: jeremyp on May 16, 2023, 08:52:19 AM
I suspect they would learn enough to lie with them rather than "do" them correctly.

That's not the point. I'm not suggesting that people need to learn how to do statistics, only how to understand them.