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General Category => Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment => Topic started by: Gordon on July 26, 2023, 07:30:57 PM

Title: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Gordon on July 26, 2023, 07:30:57 PM
This doesn't seem right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66318626
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 26, 2023, 07:39:59 PM
This doesn't seem right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66318626

Not an easy life


https://youtu.be/dHNUrPzQYaw
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Steve H on July 26, 2023, 08:49:10 PM
All te obituaries are being very coy about the cause of death, but seem to be hinting that it was suicide. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 26, 2023, 10:00:08 PM
All te obituaries are being very coy about the cause of death, but seem to be hinting that it was suicide. Does anyone know?
No. Does it matter?
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 26, 2023, 10:07:52 PM
Sinead O'Connor and Terry Hall - All Kinds of Everything


https://youtu.be/Sqk4qzmRpS0
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Outrider on July 27, 2023, 09:02:03 AM
No. Does it matter?

There would be a measure of sad irony about it, given her passion last year (?) when her son died that way - she understood, and obviously understood, the impact that has on family and friends.

O.
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 27, 2023, 09:19:13 AM
There would be a measure of sad irony about it, given her passion last year (?) when her son died that way - she understood, and obviously understood, the impact that has on family and friends.

O.
And is life measured in 'sad irony'? We are not consistent slabs of stone. The river had, as it always does, changed.
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 27, 2023, 09:28:02 AM
Excellent article from Suzanne Moore from last November

https://suzannemoore.substack.com/p/reclaiming-sinead-o-connor-3d2
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Outrider on July 27, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
And is life measured in 'sad irony'? We are not consistent slabs of stone. The river had, as it always does, changed.

Is there a definitive 'measure'? You could equally argue that a late 50's Irish(?) woman has died, why is that newsworthy in the first place. That someone so viscerally passionate about suicide might have succumbed to it herself is worthy of note, especially to those people who respond to stories of suicide with an indictment of the dead as unthinkingly selfish.

O.
Title: Re: Sinead O'Connor dies
Post by: Aruntraveller on July 28, 2023, 04:04:36 PM
Sad, sad, sad.

And yet Sinead has just made me laugh, albeit posthumously(turning down the offer of an interview with Piers Morgan):