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Title: Every damn day’:..
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 16, 2023, 10:28:10 AM
... We asked a psychologist why boys think about the Roman Empire so much'


I would have described myself as a Rome obsessive, though I am probably most interested in the change from the republic to the empire rather than the empire itself, and I can go weeks without thinking about it. Who are these weird fucks?

https://thetab.com/uk/2023/09/14/roman-empire-men-tik-tok-trend-328882
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: jeremyp on September 16, 2023, 11:50:38 AM
Interesting terminology. I know you mean the transition from republic to absolute rule by an emperor but Rome had an extensive empire whilst it was still a republic.

And I think about roughly on the same schedule as Metatron's YouTube release schedule.
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: Steve H on September 16, 2023, 02:13:40 PM
Interesting terminology. I know you mean the transition from republic to absolute rule by an emperor but Rome had an extensive empire whilst it was still a republic.
No doubt it ruled extensive lands when it was a republic, but it can't have been an empire, because that is a territory ruled by an emperor.
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: jeremyp on September 16, 2023, 02:23:58 PM
No doubt it ruled extensive lands when it was a republic, but it can't have been an empire, because that is a territory ruled by an emperor.

What was the difference between the lands controlled by Rome before Augustus adopted the term Imperator and the lands controlled afterwards. What would you call the entirety of Roman possessions before Augustus if not an empire?
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 17, 2023, 10:00:05 AM
Interesting terminology. I know you mean the transition from republic to absolute rule by an emperor but Rome had an extensive empire whilst it was still a republic.

And I think about roughly on the same schedule as Metatron's YouTube release schedule.
I suspect that those who think about it 'every damn day' as covered in the link don't think much about Rome pre Julius Caesar, and that prior to the 'crossing of the Rubicon', probably not that much about JC. 
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: Steve H on September 17, 2023, 01:02:49 PM
What was the difference between the lands controlled by Rome before Augustus adopted the term Imperator and the lands controlled afterwards. What would you call the entirety of Roman possessions before Augustus if not an empire?
A domain. Venice ruled extensive lands at one time, but no-one ever refers to the Venetian empire, because it was a republic.
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: Steve H on September 17, 2023, 05:05:17 PM
Currently watching the Yank docu-drama series 'Colosseum', which is rather good. I was surprised by one statement, though - that Rome was the world's largest city until 19th-Century London. What about Constantinople?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0fwgsmw/colosseum-series-1-1-the-gladiators?seriesId=p0fwgs0x

Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: jeremyp on September 18, 2023, 07:39:22 PM
A domain. Venice ruled extensive lands at one time, but no-one ever refers to the Venetian empire, because it was a republic.

I think I'll stick with "empire". This domain thing is confusing to people.

Not only that, but the British Empire didn't have an emperor, so I think Your distinction really doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: Steve H on September 18, 2023, 07:45:50 PM
I think I'll stick with "empire". This domain thing is confusing to people.

Not only that, but the British Empire didn't have an emperor, so I think Your distinction really doesn't mean anything.
During our empire, the monarch was officially known as the King-Emperor or Queen-Empress.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King-Emperor#In_the_British_Empire
Title: Re: Every damn day’:..
Post by: jeremyp on September 19, 2023, 07:08:03 PM
During our empire, the monarch was officially known as the King-Emperor or Queen-Empress.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King-Emperor#In_the_British_Empire

You didn't read your own link. Queen Victoria was given the title "Empress of India" in 1858. It didn't exist before then which means, according to you, that we didn't have an empire before then and after 1858, we did have an empire, but it was just India. All the rest was just possessions.