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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on October 04, 2023, 10:44:18 PM

Title: Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Sunak
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 04, 2023, 10:44:18 PM
And yet as is covered in the article this would be a free vote, so not govt policy, not a Tory policy in a GE. So what's the point in Sunak putting it in a Tory conference speech?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67008051
Title: Re: Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Sunak
Post by: splashscuba on October 05, 2023, 09:20:23 AM
Maybe to influence the never smoked votes ?

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-12304-4#Sec15 (https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-12304-4#Sec15)
Title: Re: Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Sunak
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 05, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Maybe to influence the never smoked votes ?

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-12304-4#Sec15 (https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-12304-4#Sec15)
But in party terms, it's irrelevant. It's Sunak, the brand. It has nothing to do with the Tories, and announcing it in a speech at the Tory conference is lying by obfuscation.
Title: Re: Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Sunak
Post by: splashscuba on October 05, 2023, 12:42:10 PM
But in party terms, it's irrelevant. It's Sunak, the brand. It has nothing to do with the Tories, and announcing it in a speech at the Tory conference is lying by obfuscation.
I agree but some won't see that, hence why they've done it. They make it seem great to MPs cos they are offering a free vote and some in the electorate will think 'wow what a great idea put forward by the Tories'
Title: Re: Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Sunak
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 05, 2023, 12:48:42 PM
I agree but some won't see that, hence why they've done it. They make it seem great to MPs cos they are offering a free vote and some in the electorate will think 'wow what a great idea put forward by the Tories'
The Tories though aren't doing it. Sunak is. And he risks pissing off a number of Tory members, and  usual Tory voters for a policy that I doubt is a major issue for a significant number of voters.
Title: Re: Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Sunak
Post by: jeremyp on October 05, 2023, 02:13:17 PM
But in party terms, it's irrelevant. It's Sunak, the brand. It has nothing to do with the Tories, and announcing it in a speech at the Tory conference is lying by obfuscation.

When has that ever stopped them?
Title: Re: Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Sunak
Post by: Aruntraveller on October 06, 2023, 09:43:34 AM
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