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Title: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on April 23, 2024, 02:55:08 PM
Hertfordshire has got a PCC election, and I've just completed my postal vote, and will post it when it isn't pissing down. I voted Green. I haven't bothered voting for PCCs before, since I don't think we should have them - they are a Tory gimmick which replaced Police Authorities - but I want to vote against the bastard Tory bastards as much as possible. It's also the first time I've voted by poste - I didn't want to risk my ID - my old fart's bus pass - being rejected, as I've trimmed my beard since the photo was taken. The new requirement for ID at polling stations is a rather desperate attempt by the Tories to fiddle the vote, since it is weighed against young people, who are less likely to vote Tory.  They're also trying to fiddle the mayoral votes - they abolished the former semi- PR system of voting, and went back to FPTP, which also works in their favour, since there are more left-wing parties than right-wing.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 23, 2024, 03:20:01 PM
Hertfordshire has got a PCC election, and I've just completed my postal vote, and will post it when it isn't pissing down. I voted Green. I haven't bothered voting for PCCs before, since I don't think we should have them - they are a Tory gimmick which replaced Police Authorities - but I want to vote against the bastard Tory bastards as much as possible. It's also the first time I've voted by poste - I didn't want to risk my ID - my old fart's bus pass - being rejected, as I've trimmed my beard since the photo was taken. The new requirement for ID at polling stations is a rather desperate attempt by the Tories to fiddle the vote, since it is weighed against young people, who are less likely to vote Tory.  They're also trying to fiddle the mayoral votes - they abolished the former semi- PR system of voting, and went back to FPTP, which also works in their favour, since there are more left-wing parties than right-wing.
Not going to vote for a party that hates women like the Greens.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on April 23, 2024, 03:27:23 PM
Not going to vote for a party that hates women like the Greens.
I disagree with their official policy, but so do many members, and being pro-trans is not the same as hating women.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67546751
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 23, 2024, 03:45:45 PM
I disagree with their official policy, but so do many members, and being pro-trans is not the same as hating women.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67546751
Their official policy hates women. The portrayal of the Cass Report as far right as the Scottish Greens have done hates women.

Your link backs that up
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 27, 2024, 09:02:10 AM
John Curtice on the local elections

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72p6ez46ezo
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2024, 11:04:47 AM
'Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting ID' - I wonder if that might have been deliberate.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68947834
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 03, 2024, 11:16:52 AM
'Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting ID' - I wonder if that might have been deliberate.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68947834
No idea why he would have done it deliberately, given that requiring ID was his policy!
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2024, 11:18:21 AM
No idea why he would have done it deliberately, given that requiring ID was his policy!
Because it plays up to his 'lovable buffoon' image, and gets him in the news.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2024, 11:20:15 AM

Easy win for Labour in the by election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-68942651
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 03, 2024, 11:24:50 AM
Easy win for Labour in the by election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-68942651
Tories just managed by a whisker to avoid coming third to Reform.
Council results so far:
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2024, 11:28:55 AM
Tories just managed by a whisker to avoid coming third to Reform.
Council results so far:
Given the pincer movement with dodgy Mark Menzies in the Fylde constituency, it will be a disappointment for them that they didn't manage second.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 03, 2024, 11:31:19 AM
Because it plays up to his 'lovable buffoon' image, and gets him in the news.
Perhaps. Or he's just an idiot ... or forgot that the law applies to him just as it does to others, including when it's his own law. It's not as if he's not got a track record of thinking that the laws he, himself, brought in didn't apply to him!!
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2024, 11:36:42 AM
Perhaps. Or he's just an idiot ... or forgot that the law applies to him just as it does to others, including when it's his own law. It's not as if he's not got a track record of thinking that the laws he, himself, brought in didn't apply to him!!
Indeed, those are possibilities but I'm cynical about Johnson's motivations when on a day nothing to do with him he gets in the news.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2024, 07:51:27 PM
Starmer shouldn't have gone big on Harlow but still


https://au.news.yahoo.com/conservatives-harlow-victory-depends-councillor-151241428.html

Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2024, 07:54:19 PM
Lots of chat about the London mayoral election being closer than expected. This is bad news for the Tories because they could have done better with a better candidate, which would be pretty much anyone, and it means that the attention will switch to how dreadful a candidate Susan Hall was, and how is that really what Sunak wants to support.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 04, 2024, 12:24:02 PM
Summary of the results. Includes quotes from Johnson's article in the Daily Mail about his ID issues:

 "I want to pay a particular tribute to the three villagers who on Thursday rightly turned me away when I appeared in the polling station with nothing to prove my identity except the sleeve of my copy of Prospect magazine, on which my name and address had been printed.

"I showed it to them and they looked very dubious... within minutes I was back with my driving licence and voted Tory."

Hmm...
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 04, 2024, 12:51:39 PM
Good news for Labour in London
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 04, 2024, 07:35:04 PM
And in the end a fairly clear win for Labour in London though the Tory candidate was awful.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68952475
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 04, 2024, 08:37:25 PM
And in the end a fairly clear win for Labour in London though the Tory candidate was awful.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68952475
Dang - I had my money on Count Binface.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 04, 2024, 08:39:22 PM
Dang - I had my money on Count Binface.
Much better candidate than Susan Hall
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 04, 2024, 08:44:05 PM
Could've done without Sadiq saying he was "beyond humbled" - two infuriatingly common verbal tics in two words.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 04, 2024, 08:51:11 PM
Double dang - the Tories won Hertfordshire PCC.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 04, 2024, 09:05:03 PM
Labour wins West Midlands mayoral contest even with impact of independent campaigning on Gaza backed by George Galloway taking over 11% of vote
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 05, 2024, 06:39:21 AM
The Tories haven't quite lost the 500 councillors predicted, though it's not far off, But Labour's gains are a bit disappointing, the lost Tory seats being dispersed across all the other parties. No gains for Reform, which is surprising. [Edit] Apparently, they gained six councillors, so I don't know why they're not shown here.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Gordon on May 05, 2024, 07:12:29 AM
I wonder if anyone will tell Sunak that there is no point in stumbling on for another 5 or 6 months - and if they did whether he would listen anyway.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 05, 2024, 08:48:10 AM
Dang - I had my money on Count Binface.
I wonder if other democracies have joke candidates such as Count Binface, Howling Lawd Hope and the Monster Raving Loony Party. I've never heard of any Yank joke candidates. I suspect that the Yanks take themselves too seriously.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 05, 2024, 09:10:47 AM
I wonder if other democracies have joke candidates such as Count Binface, Howling Lawd Hope and the Monster Raving Loony Party. I've never heard of any Yank joke candidates. I suspect that the Yanks take themselves too seriously.
Not sure it counts given the choice in the US but


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/25/texas-name-change-election-candidate
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 05, 2024, 10:13:42 AM
I wonder if other democracies have joke candidates such as Count Binface, Howling Lawd Hope and the Monster Raving Loony Party. I've never heard of any Yank joke candidates. I suspect that the Yanks take themselves too seriously.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_frivolous_political_parties
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 05, 2024, 02:27:00 PM
Well I never! Even the supposedly humourless Germans have got some.
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: ad_orientem on May 05, 2024, 04:01:33 PM
I wonder if other democracies have joke candidates such as Count Binface, Howling Lawd Hope and the Monster Raving Loony Party. I've never heard of any Yank joke candidates. I suspect that the Yanks take themselves too seriously.

Trump?
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Steve H on May 09, 2024, 09:39:55 AM
Delusional Sue.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/proud-susan-hall-says-she-so-nearly-defeated-sadiq-khan-despite-losing-by-record-margin/ar-BB1m2Tw8
Title: Re: PCC, Mayoral and Council elections,, May 2nd 2024
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 09, 2024, 03:03:37 PM
Houchen blames Sunak

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68983071