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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on October 18, 2024, 07:18:34 PM

Title: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 18, 2024, 07:18:34 PM

Not big on people apologising for things they didn't do.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qzkg0ldqzo

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Steve H on October 18, 2024, 07:24:11 PM

Quite - an expression of regret is appropriate; an apology isn't.

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 18, 2024, 07:48:20 PM

Not sure what regret means here either if it's nothing to do with any action you've taken.

Though I do wonder if Lammy regrets his 2018 speech?

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Steve H on October 19, 2024, 07:25:41 AM

Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 18, 2024, 07:48:20 PM

Not sure what regret means here either if it's nothing to do with any action you've taken.

I regret the Boxing day Tsunami of 2004, though obviously neither I nor anyone else is to blame.

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 19, 2024, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: SteveH on October 19, 2024, 07:25:41 AM

I regret the Boxing day Tsunami of 2004, though obviously neither I nor anyone else is to blame.

Contextually that meaning of regret doesn't make much sense.

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: jeremyp on October 19, 2024, 10:42:17 AM

Nope. We don't need to flagellate ourselves over something that happened centuries ago. I think, by now, everybody realises that we all know the slave trade was contrary to all that is right.

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Harrowby Hall on October 20, 2024, 09:05:40 PM

Neither is there any apology from the people who initially captured the slaves and then sold them to European slavers.

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 20, 2024, 09:33:20 PM

Quote from: Harrowby Hall on October 20, 2024, 09:05:40 PM

Neither is there any apology from the people who initially captured the slaves and then sold them to European slavers.

Well, since they are dead as well...

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: jeremyp on October 24, 2024, 09:06:56 AM

Reparations will be discussed at the next summit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd6vy79p750o

I have no problem with that: any existing slave owners should be made to pay reparations to any surviving slaves.

Title: Re: No UK apology over slavery at Commonwealth summit
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 24, 2024, 04:10:56 PM

Quote from: jeremyp on October 24, 2024, 09:06:56 AM

Reparations will be discussed at the next summit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd6vy79p750o

I have no problem with that: any existing slave owners should be made to pay reparations to any surviving slaves.

Not sure that this has been best handled by the UK govt. But I'm with you on reparations.