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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Christian Topic => Topic started by: Steve H on April 29, 2025, 10:21:27 AM

Title: Who will be the next pope?
Post by: Steve H on April 29, 2025, 10:21:27 AM
I'm rooting for Tagle, another liberal like Francis.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/who-will-be-the-next-pope-leading-candidate-could-be-first-asian-pontiff/ar-AA1DEx9K
Title: Re: Who will be the next pope?
Post by: ProfessorDavey on April 29, 2025, 11:03:08 AM
I'm rooting for Tagle, another liberal like Francis.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/who-will-be-the-next-pope-leading-candidate-could-be-first-asian-pontiff/ar-AA1DEx9K
Was Francis really a liberal - sure he talked the talk, but what major modernising or liberal shifts in policy did he get adopted by the RCC?
Title: Re: Who will be the next pope?
Post by: Alan Burns on April 29, 2025, 05:51:40 PM
Was Francis really a liberal - sure he talked the talk, but what major modernising or liberal shifts in policy did he get adopted by the RCC?
The RC church has its foundation firmly rooted in the divine revelations of Christ as discerned in the New Testament scriptures.  Any modernising or liberal shifts cannot take us away from Christ's teachings.
Title: Re: Who will be the next pope?
Post by: ProfessorDavey on April 29, 2025, 05:58:05 PM
The RC church has its foundation firmly rooted in the divine revelations of Christ as discerned in the New Testament scriptures.  Any modernising or liberal shifts cannot take us away from Christ's teachings.
So you assert, but other opinions are available.

The point is that the church has changed its position on doctrinal interpretation and practise over the centuries. My point is that Francis has been portrayed as a moderniser and liberal (compared to his predecessor who was portrayed as a conservative). But besides words I'm struggling to see any meaningful difference between them in terms of changes made to the RCC. Now you might be very happy with that, but that isn't the point I'm making.

My point is that the claim of Francis as a modernising liberal seems to be all words and no action. Same with JPII who left the RCC more conservative, when compared to mainstream society, when he died in 2005 than when he became pope in 1978.