Sex education

[Samuel]

mean while God is thinking, haud oan, haud the bus ( God is a Glaswegian )

and uses the bus apparently! 

[Rhiannon]

Calling something sinful is not the same as judging a person. You have to be able to recognise sin before you can even begin to deal with it in your own life. As for live and let live, that just means we can all do what the hell we want, but again a Christian can never approve of that.

But you might be wrong. You need to beware the sin of pridefulness, ad-o.

[ad_orientem]

Dear Rhiannon,

Confession, old ad o has confession, the Priest tells him to go and sin no more, mean while God is thinking, haud oan, haud the bus ( God is a Glaswegian ) who made that wee nyaff God

This just shows how little you understand confession. It is Christ who forgives in confession but if you don't have sacraments you're unlikely know God's grace.

[Nearly Sane]

and uses the bus apparently! 

Of course

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=LyqCE6Zh5sg

[Shaker]

Calling something sinful is not the same as judging a person.

Unless sin has changed its definition since the last time I looked that's pretty much exactly what it means.

As for live and let live, that just means we can all do what the hell we want

No, it means leave other people leading their own lives according to their own lights and finding happiness in their own way alone.

but again a Christian can never approve of that.

I dare say that'll be the reason so many Christians of a particular stripe are in everybody else's face about their lives (especially sex lives) and why they think the ideal parking spot for their noses is in somebody else's business.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

I'm all for the technical specifications about our biology being supplied to our children, but I sincerely hope it comes with the more important stuff, like the emotional implications and significance of those events, the role of relationships etc.

I think your concerns might have a slightly different focus from the government's. One of the main purposes of the government getting involved in sex education has been to try to reduce teenage pregnancies and the spread of STIs. Young people and children have a tendency to act more recklessly or impulsively than adults or can be more easily manipulated so it was thought that education might help tackle this. Historically, areas with higher teenage pregnancy rates and high rates of STI transmission have also had higher socio-economic deprivation.

I agree with Gonners - children can be presented with information about sex, relationships and potential consequences from lots of different sources - there aren't any guarantees about how any relationship will work out so that might be an area that the school might not have lots of time to focus on, but the potential physical consequences of sex are fact based. I think in terms of relationships the schools seem to be spending time on exploring the idea that people should not be bullied or coerced.

[Samuel]

I think your concerns might have a slightly different focus from the government's.

I can assure you most strongly that they do, on a great many subjects!

[Shaker]

This just shows how little you understand confession. It is Christ who forgives in confession but if you don't have sacraments you're unlikely know God's grace.

There we go, religion fostering peace and bringing everyone together again.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Dear Rhiannon,

Confession, old ad o has confession, the Priest tells him to go and sin no more, mean while God is thinking, haud oan, haud the bus ( God is a Glaswegian ) who made that wee nyaff God

Dear ad o,


Or point the finger.

But I will leave you here, I need to believe that deep down you know you are wrong and that God will soften your heart so that you embrace all of Gods children, well except for Celtic supporters and Tories, oh and eastcoasters.

Gonnagle.

God might perhaps be a weegie, but an Orthodox priest does not say "Go and sin no more" following confession.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

I can assure you most strongly that they do, on a great many subjects!

Which is probably one of the reasons why there are parents (religious or otherwise) who may not feel comfortable with what the State is teaching in a sex education class - because the focus of the State on supporting the needs of a diverse group of children will be somewhat different from the focus of parents to support the individual needs of their own children.

I personally view the State's role in this as not doing much more than giving kids the minimum information they need to counteract the negative physical implications of sex which causes a drain on State resources - e.g. pregnancy, STIs - which is why I think watching abortion videos is useful  - and also the State's role should be to counteract bullying in order that people can get on together in a public space.

I think it is the State's role to put in place mechanisms in a school to minimise bullying of children, and if the only way to do that means teaching kids values about equality that contradicts the values of their parents, then so be it. In a public arena I think the State has the right to require people to adhere to standards that enable friendly interaction. If the parents don't like the protective role taken by the State, they are free to home-school their kids.

ETA: Or parents can lobby for change and see how persuasive the school, other parents and the governors find their arguments. I believe some schools withdrew a sex education video aimed at primary school kids, showing an animation of 2 people having sex, after pressure from parents that it was too explicit.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

From todays Indy:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/education-secretary-nicky-morgan-waged-battle-with-david-cameron-for-compulsory-sex-education-a6869176.html

This in particular is a real hoot: A government source told Ms Newman: “There’s a divide…For me it gets to the heart of why we need more women in politics. It’s not just because it should be fair, it’s just these are the sort of issues which they understand and the men don’t.”[/