The Queen is dead.

[Steve H]

I love the fact that Malcolm Canmore/Ceann Mhors surname can be translated either as "great leader" (to his face), or "big-head" (behind his back).

[Anchorman]

I love the fact that Malcolm Canmore/Ceann Mhors surname can be translated either as "great leader" (to his face), or "big-head" (behind his back).

 


I'm not even going to tell you what the Gaelic name for the chief of clan Campbell is, then........

[Udayana]

Odd fact: Prince William and Queen Camilla are both directly descended from Charles II, but King Charles isn't. William is descended from Charles II on his mother's side.

Er .. yeah. But that is simply because Charles II left no legitimate successor but had plenty of illegitimate offspring.
 

[Anchorman]

Er .. yeah. But that is simply because Charles II left no legitimate successor but had plenty of illegitimate offspring.
 

 

Apparently there's a link from Meghan to one of James V's - many - illegitimate offspring - and therefore back to the Bruce.....Wee Airchie's more royal than we thought........

[Udayana]

 

Apparently there's a link from Meghan to one of James V's - many - illegitimate offspring - and therefore back to the Bruce.....Wee Airchie's more royal than we thought........

hmm ... "more royal" or "less royal" mean nothing to me

Does he have any ideas worth mentioning?

[Anchorman]

hmm ... "more royal" or "less royal" mean nothing to me

Does he have any ideas worth mentioning?

   


It meant a lot to the 'Guidman o Ballengich" - James V.
He wanted his many illegitimate sons to have status, so he insstalled them as 'secular clergy' in abbeys and cathedrals.
One such was installed in the Abbacy of Arbroath, then the second richest benefice in the Kingdom.....at the age of four.
It was actions such as this which fuelled the seeds of the Reformation in Scotland.
In enriching the crown, James helped weaken it.

[Steve H]

Er .. yeah. But that is simply because Charles II left no legitimate successor but had plenty of illegitimate offspring.
 

No, it's because the Hanoverian monarchs were descended from Elizabeth Stuart, sister of Charles I, who married some kraut, leaving the Stuart monarchs out on a limb. Anyway, so what? the fact still stands.