Author Topic: Are Labour Dead In The Water?  (Read 26693 times)

jakswan

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Re: Are Labour Dead In The Water?
« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2016, 12:39:19 PM »
Which is astonishing when you look at what this Conservative government is doing to the educational system and the NHS.

We lost a lot when the libdems got slaughtered in the election. Labour score the open goals but once a follow up question is asked 'what would you do' they spend the next ten minutes avoiding the question.
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Re: Are Labour Dead In The Water?
« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2016, 03:49:50 PM »
Which is astonishing when you look at what this Conservative government is doing to the educational system and the NHS.
The problem in a sense is that both the NHS and the education system are somewhere in the '90s, perhaps even the '80s.  Neither of them can be allowed to just carry on as they are, because they will collaps under the weight of their respective issues.  For instance, we need to move away from a 2-stream NHS/Social care system to an integrated system.  Whether we can say that the Tory - let alone the Coalition - administration has been/was working towards this is open to debate. 

Similarly, the education system.  The last 25 years has seen a huge development in learning platforms, learning difficulty understandings, potential subjects for study, etc.; yet the system hasn't kept up with these developments.

Not sure that forcing all schools to become academies is going to help, but even then that seems to be trying to answer yesterday's questions.
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Re: Are Labour Dead In The Water?
« Reply #202 on: March 21, 2016, 06:56:42 PM »
We lost a lot when the libdems got slaughtered in the election. Labour score the open goals but once a follow up question is asked 'what would you do' they spend the next ten minutes avoiding the question.
We know what they will do they just don't want to say it because it will spook the voters. They are playing the long game of course.

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Re: Are Labour Dead In The Water?
« Reply #203 on: March 21, 2016, 07:05:35 PM »

Not sure that forcing all schools to become academies is going to help, but even then that seems to be trying to answer yesterday's questions.
That smells of privatisation. The idea here is that failing schools get taken over by good schools; all rated by the government - who are TOTALLY fair and honest. And who's going to run the 'good' schools? Cameron's elitist friends?

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Re: Are Labour Dead In The Water?
« Reply #204 on: March 22, 2016, 08:40:20 PM »
We lost a lot when the libdems got slaughtered in the election.

I'm in total agreement. People come down hard on the Lib Dems but now that we see the face of an unrestrained Tory government, it's pretty obvious they did a very good job for five years.
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Re: Are Labour Dead In The Water?
« Reply #205 on: March 23, 2016, 06:37:05 PM »
I'm in total agreement. People come down hard on the Lib Dems but now that we see the face of an unrestrained Tory government, it's pretty obvious they did a very good job for five years.
I've heard Cameron wanted even harder cuts on the PIP than what was actually put in the budget.