New Party leaders

[L.A.]

That is wrong.

I've already given the actual results of last year's election - Corbyn would have won on the first ballot without the £3 supporters. He had over 50% of the combined total of the other two groups, the members and the affiliated supporters.

I certainly recall seeing some provisional figures that would have suggested otherwise, but as I an in France at the moment with rather sporadic internet access I can't really check.

[ProfessorDavey]

I certainly recall seeing some provisional figures that would have suggested otherwise, but as I an in France at the moment with rather sporadic internet access I can't really check.

FFS LA, you don't need to go looking for them, I've already given the complete results in reply 241.

And then point that out again when you continued to make an assertion that Corbyn needed the £3 supporters to have won on the first ballot.

He didn't:

Please actually read what I posted.

[Brownie]

Owen Smith is now standing for Labour leadership, Angela has stepped down and is backing him against Jeremy Corbyn.
Smith voted to Remain.  He used to be in the CND, has always spoken out against Trident......now he believes we should keep Trident  !
By now, we should be used to not knowing where we stand with politicians.
I have a funny feeling he will win though.

[Dicky Underpants]

Owen Smith is now standing for Labour leadership, Angela has stepped down and is backing him against Jeremy Corbyn.
Smith voted to Remain.  He used to be in the CND, has always spoken out against Trident......now he believes we should keep Trident  !
By now, we should be used to not knowing where we stand with politicians.
I have a funny feeling he will win though.

Odd that out of those 80% of Labour mps who opposed Corbyn, no person of real stature seems to have stepped forward - though no doubt A.E. and O.S are committed, articulate and trustworthy people. Where's Hilary Benn in all this?
As for trustworthiness, the Thangam Debbonaire* debacle certainly doesn't put Corbyn in a very good light, especially for the offhand way she was treated while she was hospitalised for cancer. If Corbyn is such an out-of-touch ditherer as this episode reveals, then his possible re-election will ensure Labour stays out of power for another half-century (something Ms Debbonaire has deep fears about, in her scathing critique of Corbyn)

*M.P. for Bristol West.

[wigginhall]

I've heard tons of people say that, including lefties, that if an authentic alternative candidate came forward, they might well attract votes from members.   Angela Eagle had all the charisma of a wet flannel, the new guy seems a bit identikit to me.   I suppose that there are people lurking who may emerge at a later date, and don't want to get their suits dirty, or something, right now, in the hurly-burly.   I mean, they may estimate that Labour are going to lose next time, Corbyn will fall (assuming he wins this time), and that's the time for the new Blair to emerge.   <makes sign of cross, hurls garlic and samphire round the room, oh Lord preserve us from that>