Sports Personality of the Year

[ProfessorDavey]

which is in the context of the thread, and says Brit. So it is in a British context.  It doesn't seem to relate to the greatest British sportsman ever, nor to the Brit who has done more for their sport in a world context, whatever that might mean.

Obviously we'll have to ask what Anchorman meant by his comment.

But I certainly read it as indicting the British-ness of the context merely to be the nationality of the sportsperson, rather than the limit of their impact to just British sport.

Indeed I think every one of the contenders for SPOTY was selected due to their impact on global sport and that they are British by nationality. The majority were on the shortlist due to impressive gold medal winning performances at the Rio Olympics/Paralympics, which last time I looked was a global sporting event.

[Nearly Sane]

Obviously we'll have to ask what Anchorman meant by his comment.

But I certainly read it as indicting the British-ness of the context merely to be the nationality of the sportsperson, rather than the limit of their impact to just British sport.

Indeed I think every one of the contenders for SPOTY was selected due to their impact on global sport and that they are British by nationality. The majority were on the shortlist due to impressive gold medal winning performances at the Rio Olympics/Paralympics, which last time I looked was a global sporting event.

Where is the inducting of the Britishness of it in the post?  Especially one that refers to a 'Brit'! That appears to not make any sense.


Given that I'm struggling to see why you then go off on some oddity that these might not be about global sporting events. That would imply that you think that you can only effect British sporting expectation in a non global event, which is clearly nonsense.

[ProfessorDavey]

Where is the inducting of the Britishness of it in the post?  Especially one that refers to a 'Brit'! That appears to not make any sense.

Indeed he claimed that:

'Murry delivered more for his sport than any other brit in modern times ...'

Which I took to being only about the nationality of the sportsperson (which is relevant to SPOTY, as it is restricted to Brits only - or at least the main prize is).

Given that I'm struggling to see why you then go off on some oddity that these might not be about global sporting events. That would imply that you think that you can only effect British sporting expectation in a non global event, which is clearly nonsense.

I agree - hence focussing on the global impact of a sportsperson, with the proviso that they are British by nationality.

Not sure we are really disagreeing.

The point I was making (originally) was that if Anchorman's comment means (to use enki's terminology, with slight modification):

'Do you [agree] that Murray has delivered more for his sport(which is tennis) than any other brit has for their particular sport in modern times?' - then my answer would be no.

On the other hand if the question is:

'Do you [agree] that Murray has delivered more for his sport(which is tennis) than any other brit has for tennis in modern times?' - then my answer would be absolutely yes.

[Nearly Sane]

Indeed he claimed that:

'Murry delivered more for his sport than any other brit in modern times ...'

Which I took to being only about the nationality of the sportsperson (which is relevant to SPOTY, as it is restricted to Brits only - or at least the main prize is).
I agree - hence focussing on the global impact of a sportsperson, with the proviso that they are British by nationality.

Not sure we are really disagreeing.

The point I was making (originally) was that if Anchorman's comment means (to use enki's terminology, with slight modification):

'Do you [agree] that Murray has delivered more for his sport(which is tennis) than any other brit has for their particular sport in modern times?' - then my answer would be no.

On the other hand if the question is:

'Do you [agree] that Murray has delivered more for his sport(which is tennis) than any other brit has for tennis in modern times?' - then my answer would be absolutely yes.

Which is why I  suggested an alternative reading which is for their particular sport as a Brit, and outlined why.

[Hope]

OK - a bit of a challenge - in more than one sense.

If there was a Sports Family of the Year award, who would you have voted for?

[ProfessorDavey]

OK - a bit of a challenge - in more than one sense.

If there was a Sports Family of the Year award, who would you have voted for?

First place - the Kennys

Second place - the Brownlees

Third place - the Murrays

Sure I know the first one is a bit of a cheat, being husband and wife.

[Hope]

Sure I know the first one is a bit of a cheat, being husband and wife.

My question would be 'Were they 'family' at the time of their achievements?' 

[ProfessorDavey]

My question would be 'Were they 'family' at the time of their achievements?'

Depends what you define as family.

I'd argue yes in Rio, no in London.

But I fully accepted it was a bit of a cheat.