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Nearly Sane

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The slap
« on: April 03, 2017, 01:42:17 PM »

Odd that this wasn't a story when it happened. Can't imagine that would be the case if Mourinho had said it.



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Re: The slap
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2017, 03:57:58 PM »
How he has kept is job is beyond me.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2017, 05:10:22 PM »
Life is tough at the top. The human mind was never made for this kind of pressure.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 10:09:36 AM »
Mountain out of a molehill.
Another attempt by a sanitised desk bound elite to eliminate industrial, male working class culture.

I say get a fucking life.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 10:19:28 AM »
How he has kept is job is beyond me.
Presumably because he is competent although football management is always a temporary gig.

The trouble with the UK is that it has a high premium on saying the right things and making the right noises as against professional competence.

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 11:15:23 AM »
Presumably because he is competent although football management is always a temporary gig.

The trouble with the UK is that it has a high premium on saying the right things and making the right noises as against professional competence.

As far as I'm concerned the gender of the person concerned is irrelevant; it was someone in power 'jokingly' putting down someone else because they didn't like what they were doing. I'm not surprised that she was laughing - plenty of people try to laugh through horrible situations like that.

As an aside, David Moyes and professional competence do not belong together these days.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2017, 03:27:49 PM »
Presumably because he is competent although football management is always a temporary gig.

Not judging from their league position.

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The trouble with the UK is that it has a high premium on saying the right things and making the right noises as against professional competence.

I don't think that an employer should condone an employee threatening someone like that whilst at work. Its not PC gone mad in my view as some seem to think.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 03:32:16 PM »


I don't think that an employer should condone an employee threatening someone like that whilst at work. Its not PC gone mad in my view as some seem to think.

The worrying aspect of that is the implication that it is 'PC gone mad' whenever someone gets away with abusing a woman. It's hard for females to get work in sports journalism and to be taken seriously by far too many. That aside, it wouldn't be ok to say to a man either - it's not just 'banter', it's bullying.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2017, 05:19:58 PM »
The worrying aspect of that is the implication that it is 'PC gone mad' whenever someone gets away with abusing a woman. It's hard for females to get work in sports journalism and to be taken seriously by far too many. That aside, it wouldn't be ok to say to a man either - it's not just 'banter', it's bullying.

Totally agree.

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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2017, 07:30:42 PM »
So do I. Shows a poor, outdated attitude.
He's been reprimanded and apologised but he saidthat it was said in the heat of the moment, he was cross, not laughing.
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Re: The slap
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 09:56:19 PM »
How he has kept is job is beyond me.
Have you heard the recording? It really was just a bit of light hearted banter. The reporter at whom it was directed hasn't complained. At worst he deserves a slap (on the wrist).

Or are you referring to his results with Sunderland. He probably will get the sack for that soon.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2017, 08:03:01 AM »
Have you heard the recording? It really was just a bit of light hearted banter. The reporter at whom it was directed hasn't complained. At worst he deserves a slap (on the wrist).

Or are you referring to his results with Sunderland. He probably will get the sack for that soon.

Yes I heard it. It made me uncomfortable - passive aggression aimed at a junior.

But yeah, his results as a manager are what will get him the sack - I guess Sunderland haven't sacked him already because of the cost of personalising another set of kit.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 09:22:13 AM »
Have you heard the recording? It really was just a bit of light hearted banter.

Not the impression I got.

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The reporter at whom it was directed hasn't complained.

As a local journalist she would risk losing her position if she alienated the football club. Just because she hasn't made a formal complaint doesn't mean she was happy with the conversation does it?

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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 11:28:59 AM »
Not the impression I got.

As a local journalist she would risk losing her position if she alienated the football club. Just because she hasn't made a formal complaint doesn't mean she was happy with the conversation does it?

I've laughed off passive aggressive bullying because complaining would make things worse. I think many people have.

'Can't you take a joke?' - one of the greatest get out clauses for bullies.

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Re: The slap
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2017, 03:05:56 PM »
"Can't you take a joke?' - one of the greatest get out clauses for bullies."

Too right!!! That and, "You're too sensitive".
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Re: The slap
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2017, 01:13:32 PM »
Moyes  charged. Have to say, I'm unsure if that, would appear to me to have been a matter for internal discipline .


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