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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2018, 12:13:07 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on March 31, 2018, 11:45:24 AM
That the right are manipulating this doesn’t mean there isn’t an issue.
Yes but as we know from this forum part of the victory is keeping something live expediently,
What the accusers can never seem to do is fully explain their problems with whatever and how these can be resolved. Why should you when you can milk not being satisfied.

They need to make it perfectly clear what their objectives for Labour are and present them for scrutiny.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2018, 01:30:50 PM »
Jonathan Freedland, in today's Guardian, expresses my disquiet with the antisemitism that has been shown in the Labour Party extremely well.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/30/antisemitism-jews-canary-coalmine-fake-news
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2018, 05:49:40 PM »
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2018, 05:58:21 PM »
Just as a point of information, can anybody tell me what anti semitism is alleged. I've read some of the stories but they are mainly about how Jeremy Corbyn has handled (or mishandled) the situation. There was one allusion to a Labour candidate who may be a holocaust denier and who was supported by an NEC member (who has now resigned), but if that is the extent of it, it seems like a storm in a teacup.

I also think that Corbyn's somewhat naive position on Palestine could be considered anti-Israel but not necessarily antisemitic.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2018, 02:40:40 PM »
Imagine meeting with the wrong Jews.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43624231
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2018, 03:51:11 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 03, 2018, 02:40:40 PM
Imagine meeting with the wrong Jews.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43624231

Corbyn is either stupid or is trying to wind people up.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2018, 03:55:46 PM »
Quote from: jakswan on April 03, 2018, 03:51:11 PM
Corbyn is either stupid or is trying to wind people up.
Ah so those were bad Jews!
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2018, 09:22:09 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 03, 2018, 03:55:46 PM
Ah so those were bad Jews!

I would never coin such a phrase its a sad reflection on you that you do so.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2018, 09:24:57 AM »
Quote from: jakswan on April 04, 2018, 09:22:09 AM
I would never coin such a phrase its a sad reflection on you that you do so.
Is it a sad reflection on Michael Rosen who used it?
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2018, 11:20:01 AM »
Quote from: jakswan on April 04, 2018, 09:22:09 AM
I would never coin such a phrase its a sad reflection on you that you do so.

Eh? I thought this was all about the way some Jews perceive other Jews and in that context these were "bad Jews". NS was merely commenting on that stupid attitude.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2018, 12:56:07 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 03, 2018, 02:40:40 PM
Imagine meeting with the wrong Jews.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43624231

I can't imagine a worse name for a Jewish organisation than "Jewdas".
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2018, 01:18:50 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on April 04, 2018, 12:56:07 PM
I can't imagine a worse name for a Jewish organisation than "Jewdas".
I think it's deliberately provocative.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2018, 08:16:41 AM »
Despite the Tories calling setting up the debate in the HoC with a big sign saying 'Heer be a trap four the Laybur patty', the Labour Party not only walked right up to the trap but threw one and other in. I can't see any way that one could vote Labour currently given it is a party at war.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2018, 08:57:18 AM »
Corbyn seems totally unable to deal with this matter.
I watched yesterday's debate, with Labour MPs openly criticising their own party - in Parliament - with despair.
Theresa May must think it's Christmas.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2018, 09:47:13 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on April 18, 2018, 08:57:18 AM
Corbyn seems totally unable to deal with this matter.
I watched yesterday's debate, with Labour MPs openly criticising their own party - in Parliament - with despair.
Theresa May must think it's Christmas.
If it weren't for those pesky Windrush people.
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Re: Labour and anti semitism
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2018, 02:50:16 PM »
I can't think of any good reason to be anti-semitic, I can think of plenty of reasons to be pro-semitic.

The only reason I can think of is there must be a lot of jealous people about, they're such a clever bunch of people, sure they have their faults, don't we all? And no I'm not Jewish or involved knowingly with any Jews, nor am I avoiding them.

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