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[Free Willy]

So that it splits has a reason; when it splits doesn't, or it wouldn't be random. That you can average out random events to get some sort of general sense doesn't mean that there's a reason.

O.

In each case of indeterminancy we sort out whether something is indeterminant because we don’t have the Knowledge, because we can’t have the knowledge vis Heisenberg or is truly random.

I believe philosophers introduce what are known as demons, entities imbued with the knowledge we lack.

Are you saying that in the case of radioactive decay, such a demon would not know and subsequently we don’t know because we don’t know?

[Stranger]

Are you saying that in the case of radioactive decay, such a demon would not know and subsequently we don’t know because we don’t know?

According to the bare mathematics of QM, there is nothing more for any 'demon' to know. The wave-function is everything that can be known and that only gives probabilities.

[Free Willy]

According to the bare mathematics of QM, there is nothing more for any 'demon' to know. The wave-function is everything that can be known and that only gives probabilities.

This then leaves the exact time of decay unknown.

[Stranger]

This then leaves the exact time of decay unknown.

Not only unknown but unknowable. The probabilities are determined but not the individual events. This is determinism combined with true randomness.

[Free Willy]

Not only unknown but unknowable. The probabilities are determined but not the individual events. This is determinism combined with true randomness.

So the only way of knowing the time of happening is to observe it happening?

[Anchorman]

I might as well make my return to the forum I dunno where you got your text from, Gonners - it looks like a modern riff on a nineteenth century text.
My friend, Egyptologist Salima Ikram, says
"Anyone who thinks they understands Egyptian religion needs to self embalm
Your  text seems to take the 'Graeconised' concept of what they thought the Egyptians believed....which was news to most Egyptians, who just got on with the convoluted mish-mash of constantly changing thought that makes most of us who delve into it reach for the paracetamol.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Anchorman,

What! And Welcome back old son

Gonnagle.

[Free Willy]

I might as well make my return to the forum I dunno where you got your text from, Gonners - it looks like a modern riff on a nineteenth century text.
My friend, Egyptologist Salima Ikram, says
"Anyone who thinks they understands Egyptian religion needs to self embalm
Your  text seems to take the 'Graeconised' concept of what they thought the Egyptians believed....which was news to most Egyptians, who just got on with the convoluted mish-mash of constantly changing thought that makes most of us who delve into it reach for the paracetamol.

What a spectacular return on which may I heartily congratulate you on. Most uplifting.

[Nearly Sane]

I might as well make my return to the forum I dunno where you got your text from, Gonners - it looks like a modern riff on a nineteenth century text.
My friend, Egyptologist Salima Ikram, says
"Anyone who thinks they understands Egyptian religion needs to self embalm
Your  text seems to take the 'Graeconised' concept of what they thought the Egyptians believed....which was news to most Egyptians, who just got on with the convoluted mish-mash of constantly changing thought that makes most of us who delve into it reach for the paracetamol.

Good to see you back

[torridon]

I might as well make my return to the forum I dunno where you got your text from, Gonners - it looks like a modern riff on a nineteenth century text.
My friend, Egyptologist Salima Ikram, says
"Anyone who thinks they understands Egyptian religion needs to self embalm
Your  text seems to take the 'Graeconised' concept of what they thought the Egyptians believed....which was news to most Egyptians, who just got on with the convoluted mish-mash of constantly changing thought that makes most of us who delve into it reach for the paracetamol.

Welcome Back Anchorman, I look forward to some more Egyptology coming our way again