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more BBC distortion?
« on: October 13, 2015, 07:11:03 AM »
The BBC announced that Labour is against running a surplus but then went on about them being deficit deniers and anti austerity.

Does being Anti surplus really mean being pro deficit? or is it a case of BBC politico Norman Smith government pleasing?
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Re: more BBC distortion?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 08:35:50 AM »
The BBC announced that Labour is against running a surplus but then went on about them being deficit deniers and anti austerity.

Does being Anti surplus really mean being pro deficit? or is it a case of BBC politico Norman Smith government pleasing?

No to the first question. Yes to the second question.. The lack of depth of analysis of the current, relative positions of the main parties on the 'austerity' issue is appalling.
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Re: more BBC distortion?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 09:07:37 AM »
The BBC announced that Labour is against running a surplus but then went on about them being deficit deniers and anti austerity.

Does being Anti surplus really mean being pro deficit? or is it a case of BBC politico Norman Smith government pleasing?

Given your record of dishonesty any chance of a link.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 08:05:40 PM »
The BBC announced that Labour is against running a surplus but then went on about them being deficit deniers and anti austerity.

Does being Anti surplus really mean being pro deficit? or is it a case of BBC politico Norman Smith government pleasing?
I have heard several reports on this story so far today, and I don't recall any of the reporters/commentators making the announcement you have suggested.  Rather, they have simply highlighted the fact that 2 weeks ago the Shadow Chancellor stated publically that the party would be voting with the Government on this issue, only to announce today that they won't.  The only critical responses I've heard from MPs have been from Labour MPs.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2015, 12:48:28 PM »
It's a political stunt by Osborne.  One interesting spin-off is that it suggests that cutting taxes is fiscally irresponsible, since the money should be used to pay off the deficit or the debt.   Watch this space. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2015, 12:54:24 PM »
Yep, wigginhall is right, it is posturing, and isn't enforceable. I would have liked all the opposition parties arrange constituency surgeries on the night and do something useful for people rather than Grace the irrelevant debate with their attendance.

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2015, 01:13:05 PM »
Also interesting that McDonnell said he was embarrassed about changing his mind, leading the Tories to hoots of hilarity.  I think he's broken two rules here - politicians normally pretend that they haven't changed their mind, and certainly don't admit that they feel embarrassed. 

I find it refreshing, but I can imagine that some voters won't like it, as politicians are not supposed to have human reactions. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2015, 01:36:33 PM »
Dear Wigs,

Politicians are human :o :o controversial or what!!

Right!! I must be away, my car needs a wash and a vacuum, one day I swear I will give up this James Bond life style. ::) ::)

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2015, 01:59:40 PM »
Dear Wigs,

Politicians are human :o :o controversial or what!!

Right!! I must be away, my car needs a wash and a vacuum, one day I swear I will give up this James Bond life style. ::) ::)

Gonnagle.

I think normally voters are embarrassed by seeing a politician admit that he feels embarrassed - they are supposed to be invulnerable.   But in the present time, there is a mood of anti-politics, which has probably helped Corbyn to the leadership, and is producing his own kind of 'weakness'.     But of course, nobody knows how far this goes, if it's a temporary blip or not.   
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2015, 02:13:26 PM »
The BBC announced that Labour is against running a surplus but then went on about them being deficit deniers and anti austerity.

Does being Anti surplus really mean being pro deficit? or is it a case of BBC politico Norman Smith government pleasing?

Did they actually describe them as deficit deniers?

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2015, 02:29:59 PM »
I find it refreshing, but I can imagine that some voters won't like it, as politicians are not supposed to have human reactions.

I've never met some voters who think politicians are not supposed to have human reactions, are they the ones that voted anything other than Labour?
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2015, 03:40:12 PM »
I've never met some voters who think politicians are not supposed to have human reactions, are they the ones that voted anything other than Labour?
I've met voters who assumed that politicians had human reactions and emotions.  I understand that they tend to vote Tory, Lib Dem, Plaid, SNP and Green.   ;)
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2015, 04:27:09 PM »
I've never met some voters who think politicians are not supposed to have human reactions, are they the ones that voted anything other than Labour?
I've met voters who assumed that politicians had human reactions and emotions.  I understand that they tend to vote Tory, Lib Dem, Plaid, SNP and Green.   ;)

Maybe the ones that think politicians are not supposed to have human reactions go for the 'I wish my politician was a robot party'.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2015, 04:44:12 PM »
I find it refreshing, but I can imagine that some voters won't like it, as politicians are not supposed to have human reactions.

I've never met some voters who think politicians are not supposed to have human reactions, are they the ones that voted anything other than Labour?

I can't follow that really.   I think McDonnell is taking a certain risk by saying that he feels embarrassed in the Commons, and saying that he's changed his mind.   Don't you think that a lot of politicians cover up these things? 

Well, the Tories reacted with lots of hilarity and finger-pointing, so I guess they are embarrassed by his embarrassment, or maybe they will argue that it shows that he's weak.   Well, this anti-politics is certainly interesting.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2015, 09:17:53 PM »
Maybe the ones that think politicians are not supposed to have human reactions go for the 'I wish my politician was a robot party'.
Would that be UKIP?   ;)
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2015, 11:42:35 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2015, 11:59:13 AM »
Dear Wigs,

Thankyou, that was brilliant, one small criticism, that lassie needs a good strong Glesga accent, hey!! it's the sexiest accent in Britain, well according to the Americans. 8)


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