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jeremyp

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« Reply #125 on: November 12, 2015, 09:42:47 AM »

 Junk Post you need to go away and find a box with nothing in it and sit and watch it,when you see signs of evolution give us a call.


I see you didn't  take my advice to use your brain. TWat least you could try reading it.
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« Reply #126 on: November 12, 2015, 10:33:25 AM »
Dear oh dear these clowns are still trying to push nothing=something.

 ~TW~

What does your clown suit look like TW? ;D

 Floo you and your mates should read this.

             http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=9&article=3840&topic=296

     It seems the evidence says you are wrong,but we Christians know that.

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Let's consider this quote from your article:

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The actual value of the constants (c, d, and n) are unknown, since the world’s population has not been known with any certainty until the last few hundred years. They also would almost certainly have fluctuated at different times in history based on the state of technology

For those who can't be arsed to read the article, c is the number of each person has (actually, it is given as 2c per couple), d is the number of generations each person lives on average and n is the number of generations after the start.

The first error is that they call something a constant when even they admit it "fluctuate at different times in history". These people have no clue about such basic things as constants and variables.

To be honest, that's as far as we needed to go to debunk the whole article, but let's carry on:

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Being very conservative, accounting for periods of famine, disease, war, natural calamity, etc., let us assume that c = 1.2

That's a number they pulled out of their arses and is actually very high. There have been many periods in history when c was less than 1, for instance, the Black Death caused the population of Europe to drop by between a third and a half. Having made a guess, they try to compute the population of the Earth and come up with a ridiculous number. Well of course they did, their input parameters were just guesses.

In fact if we look at population figures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

assuming a generation of 20 years, even now at a period of relatively high population growth c is only 1.1.

In short, your article is utter bollocks.

To reinforce the point, according to the article's figures and numbers, under the creation scheme, at the time of the pyramid building phase of Egypt there were fewer than 100,000 people on the whole planet.

Next time, TW, try using the brain that you think God gave you.

 Junk Post you need to go away and find a box with nothing in it and sit and watch it,when you see signs of evolution give us a call.


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Clown.  ::)

Sorry, but I disagree - clowns are funny, not terminally pathetic!

I have never been keen on clowns, they creeped me out as a kid!  But I agree they are not terminally pathetic!! ;D

A bit like magicians, thanks very much but I've seen one.

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« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2016, 11:35:00 AM »
So if the earth is only 6/10000 years old as the YECs claim, is god playing silly beggars by creating the impression it is actually millions of years old?

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« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2016, 12:00:27 PM »
So if the earth is only 6/10000 years old as the YECs claim, is god playing silly beggars by creating the impression it is actually millions of years old?
Billions, not millions.

But the answer to your question is yes.
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« Reply #129 on: March 18, 2016, 12:47:28 PM »
I do recognize microevolution though. :)

 Yes we all do, but it is light years, separate from evolution.

 ~TNTW~ ;)

Yes ~TW~, but we don't count what you say about evolution because you're a king size prat.

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« Reply #130 on: March 18, 2016, 12:52:11 PM »
Yeah, but king-sized prats evolved from micro-prats, via the principle of gigantism. 
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ippy

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« Reply #131 on: March 18, 2016, 03:43:51 PM »
Yeah, but king-sized prats evolved from micro-prats, via the principle of gigantism.

D'you know I didn't know that, I'm impressed.

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« Reply #132 on: March 18, 2016, 07:00:21 PM »
D'you know I didn't know that, I'm impressed.

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I thought a king-size prat was a herring.  8)

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« Reply #133 on: March 18, 2016, 07:40:18 PM »
That's SClupeidae.
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« Reply #134 on: March 18, 2016, 07:47:44 PM »
So does Floo believe God exists or just believe in resurrecting dead threads?

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« Reply #135 on: March 18, 2016, 08:00:02 PM »
It's an interesting thread.  The subject comes up on forums frequently so why start a new thread when one already exists.
The idea that life might have evolved was first mentioned as early as the 4th century CE by St Augustine, who wrote that God probably only created very simple life forms and that these developed over time.
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« Reply #136 on: March 18, 2016, 09:08:38 PM »
The idea that life might have evolved was first mentioned as early as the 4th century CE by St Augustine, who wrote that God probably only created very simple life forms and that these developed over time.

He might have mentioned it (citation needed btw) but he came to the conclusion that God created everything simultaneously in an instant.
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« Reply #137 on: March 18, 2016, 09:26:05 PM »
Oh right, well he changed his mind then  :D.  His prerogative.
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« Reply #138 on: March 18, 2016, 09:49:31 PM »
I thought a king-size prat was a herring.  8)

Barcelona airport.

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« Reply #139 on: March 19, 2016, 11:26:38 AM »
Barcelona airport.

ippy

¿Qué?  ???

You've done it again, Ippy! Remember I am an old man with little knowledge of modernisms.

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« Reply #140 on: March 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM »
Barcelona-El Prat Airport Leonard

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« Reply #141 on: March 19, 2016, 01:02:55 PM »
Barcelona-El Prat Airport Leonard

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Silly me! I was looking for some connection with herrings!  :-[

I am using a Spanish keyboard.  :)

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« Reply #142 on: March 19, 2016, 01:52:33 PM »
(How do you get your question marks upside down or is it a gay thing? TA)

Hi Brownie,

To print ¿ try holding down the left alt key and then type 0191 on the numbers keyboard.

If that doesn't work, have a look at this page :-

http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/accents/charmap.html

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« Reply #143 on: March 19, 2016, 02:06:18 PM »
So if the earth is only 6/10000 years old as the YECs claim, is god playing silly beggars by creating the impression it is actually millions of years old?

If he left it as gases where would Adam have lived and how would he have eaten?
I thought it would be obvious why he created an earth millions of years old. The same reason he created the man an adult many years old. Neither could have survived or supported life could it?
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« Reply #144 on: March 19, 2016, 02:23:55 PM »
If he left it as gases where would Adam have lived and how would he have eaten?
I thought it would be obvious why he created an earth millions of years old. The same reason he created the man an adult many years old. Neither could have survived or supported life could it?

Oh dear! ::)

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« Reply #145 on: March 19, 2016, 02:44:27 PM »
¿Qué?  ???

You've done it again, Ippy! Remember I am an old man with little knowledge of modernisms.

Prat aeropuerto, Barcelona.

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« Reply #146 on: March 19, 2016, 03:14:24 PM »
The Bible is historically accurate, in fact, many historians use it as historical fact. How can you say it isn't evidence?

This gobsmackingly crazy comment was posted on another forum in reply to one of my posts! :o

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« Reply #147 on: March 19, 2016, 03:41:05 PM »
There is history in the Bible floo, in fact it can be divided up into sections (as theologians do), Wisdom Literature, Historical and.....something else, forget what for the moment  :-[.  In its entirety it cannot be read a historical as it is a faith document but some of it is historical.
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« Reply #148 on: March 19, 2016, 03:48:05 PM »
There is history in the Bible floo, in fact it can be divided up into sections (as theologians do), Wisdom Literature, Historical and.....something else, forget what for the moment  :-[.  In its entirety it cannot be read a historical as it is a faith document but some of it is historical.

Can you list the historical bits?

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« Reply #149 on: March 19, 2016, 03:50:52 PM »

There is history in the Bible floo, in fact it can be divided up into sections (as theologians do), Wisdom Literature, Historical and.....something else, forget what for the moment  :-[.  In its entirety it cannot be read a historical as it is a faith document but some of it is historical.


Sorry Brownie, but I think that you committed a typo on the last word of your post above - it should  be spelt "hysterical"!
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