Author Topic: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?  (Read 17353 times)

Ricky Spanish

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Re: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?
« Reply #350 on: December 18, 2015, 03:14:02 PM »
Jesus would have never referred to "hell" as "Hades" ~ end of pointless discussion.

Time to move on and enquire as to why the realm of the dead was so important to the Greek writers of said "gospels".
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Jack Knave

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Re: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?
« Reply #351 on: December 18, 2015, 07:13:43 PM »
Jesus would have never referred to "hell" as "Hades" ~ end of pointless discussion.

Time to move on and enquire as to why the realm of the dead was so important to the Greek writers of said "gospels".
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Dicky Underpants

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Re: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?
« Reply #352 on: December 19, 2015, 04:48:05 PM »
Having been brought up reading the KJV there was only really one version of hell, anything that evoked the realm of the dead was called hell by the translators of the KJV.

Growing up reading about the various greek/roman/norse gods Hades to me was the Greek God of the Underworld, you know the guy with the three headed dog.

Makes me wonder what word the Aramaic speaking Jesus would have really used in his discourses and if they had the same connotations?

If he was as Jewish as he seems to be in many of his discourses, the word would have meant a world of shadows or even complete non-existence - these being the characteristics implied by the word Sheol in the OT. However, the inter-testamental period described in the Apocrypha indicates that ideas on many of these matters of life and death were changing, and perhaps JC had absorbed some of these. Maybe the historical Jesus was also influenced by Greek influences - they lay all around him (at some points only about 3 miles away). However, he seems to have referred to the Valley of Hinnom quite a lot as a rather uncomfortable place, distinct from the other one (no doubt the Aramaic version of Sheol, rendered as Hades in Koine)

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Re: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?
« Reply #353 on: December 19, 2015, 05:10:22 PM »
Jesus would have never referred to "hell" as "Hades" ~ end of pointless discussion.

Time to move on and enquire as to why the realm of the dead was so important to the Greek writers of said "gospels".

The bloke more likely than not never existed so why bother with it?

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Re: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?
« Reply #354 on: December 22, 2015, 10:21:41 AM »
I was just wondering what the reason our resident Christians would give for the reason for this action by Christ. How does it fit in with your theology?
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Re: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?
« Reply #355 on: December 22, 2015, 10:44:48 AM »
The flood and events and times before the law saw people condemned from the beginning by Adam. People not part of a covenant. But nevertheless by the death, resurrection and power of Christ God made it so all could be saved.

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Re: Why Did Christ Descend into Hades?
« Reply #356 on: December 22, 2015, 01:58:36 PM »
The flood and events and times before the law saw people condemned from the beginning by Adam. People not part of a covenant. But nevertheless by the death, resurrection and power of Christ God made it so all could be saved.
So why did God take so long to correct things; it was Its mess up in the first place! All those people condemned to hell because God twiddled Its thumbs for thousands of years, as the story goes.