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BashfulAnthony

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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #125 on: November 09, 2015, 02:22:07 PM »
It's a fair point though, BA. Why give thanks for the pretty and fluffy and not the bacteria and the viruses?

There are ways of making the point in a rather more adult way, wouldn't you agree?  Buy the way, have you ever read, "War of the Worlds"?
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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #126 on: November 09, 2015, 02:36:20 PM »
It's a fair point though, BA. Why give thanks for the pretty and fluffy and not the bacteria and the viruses?

There are ways of making the point in a rather more adult way, wouldn't you agree?  Buy the way, have you ever read, "War of the Worlds"?

It's a Monty Python song, and it is obviously satire: nothing wrong with that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEKDYIYMgBc

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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #127 on: November 09, 2015, 02:36:59 PM »
It's a fair point though, BA. Why give thanks for the pretty and fluffy and not the bacteria and the viruses?

Agreed - the song, by the Monty Python team was intended to be taken however listener chose, but it was a genuine demostration of the fact that Christians are quick to praise the positives that they attribute to their deity but stay as far away as they possibly can from agreeing that he is responsible for all the nastiness and negatives, as he supposedly made everything, he is also responsible for.

BA is quick to accuse anyone who criticises this kind of behaviour on the part of his Christian fellows of being insulting but is quick to insult his detractors when it suits him. But then he will tell you that he doesn't deserve it because he is defending the truth! A truth that denies the existence of half the truth - see above.

(Edited 14:38 for typo's)
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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #128 on: November 09, 2015, 02:38:19 PM »

Sure there are plenty of cringe inducing non religious piece that might be used at funerals, but there are also some pretty cliched and cringey hymns too (All things bright and beautiful anyone :o).
All things scabbed and ulcerous
All pox both great and small
Putrid, foul and gangrenous
The Lord God made them all, Amen

Good one! ;D If the deity is supposed to have created everything then it created the nasty as well as the nice.
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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #129 on: November 09, 2015, 02:39:21 PM »
It's a fair point though, BA. Why give thanks for the pretty and fluffy and not the bacteria and the viruses?

There are ways of making the point in a rather more adult way, wouldn't you agree?  Buy the way, have you ever read, "War of the Worlds"?

It's a Monty Python song, and it is obviously satire: nothing wrong with that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEKDYIYMgBc

There is satire, and there is satire.  Just because it's by the sainted Python team doesn't mean it's not puerile  -  and indeed, it is.
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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #130 on: November 09, 2015, 02:48:29 PM »
It's a fair point though, BA. Why give thanks for the pretty and fluffy and not the bacteria and the viruses?

There are ways of making the point in a rather more adult way, wouldn't you agree?  Buy the way, have you ever read, "War of the Worlds"?

It's a Monty Python song, and it is obviously satire: nothing wrong with that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEKDYIYMgBc

There is satire, and there is satire.  Just because it's by the sainted Python team doesn't mean it's not puerile  -  and indeed, it is.

I think it is quite witty, and of course it does in its way pose a serious underlying question of those who see God's design in everything biological: why would a good god who loves humans create rattlesnakes, ticks etc etc etc? 

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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #131 on: November 09, 2015, 02:50:57 PM »
It's a fair point though, BA. Why give thanks for the pretty and fluffy and not the bacteria and the viruses?

There are ways of making the point in a rather more adult way, wouldn't you agree?  Buy the way, have you ever read, "War of the Worlds"?

It's a Monty Python song, and it is obviously satire: nothing wrong with that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEKDYIYMgBc

There is satire, and there is satire.  Just because it's by the sainted Python team doesn't mean it's not puerile  -  and indeed, it is.

I think it is quite witty, and of course it does in its way pose a serious underlying question of those who see God's design in everything biological: why would a good god who loves humans create rattlesnakes, ticks etc etc etc?

Because he got bored?
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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #132 on: November 09, 2015, 04:37:50 PM »
hmmm .. did he take into account having to listen to humans forever moaning on about their woes ... ?
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Re: Religion and altruism
« Reply #133 on: November 09, 2015, 05:58:54 PM »
hmmm .. did he take into account having to listen to humans forever moaning on about their woes ... ?

Maybe that is what the flood was about and when humans turned out, after the flood, to be the same as before it he thought to himself "Sod it - that was a waste effort maybe it will be easir if I just lkeave them to destroy themselves on way or another1"

Isn't it wonderful - we are doing the god's work for hum!
If there must be trouble let it be in my time that my children may have peace. Thomas Payne

An it harm none, do what you will; an it harm some do what you must!