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Nearly Sane

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The tragedy of the Iolaire
« on: January 01, 2016, 11:49:03 AM »
New Years' days don't always bring new hope. I have many friends who lost ancestors in this tragedy and every Ne'er Day, there is the shadow of remembrance.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMY_Iolaire.



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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2016, 03:21:47 PM »
I suppose it is inevitable that there will be such a remembrance if there is an expectation of jollity and new hope pinned upon that day.  On average I believe there are about 156,000 deaths a day on the planet and I doubt whether New Years day would be any different.  If you multiply that with, say, 10 friends and relatives, that's an awful lot of grief, and that's only one day of one year.  On the other hand there are 370,000 births a day which might give cause for celebration for some.  Multiply that with 10 and that's an awful lot of sex.

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2016, 03:42:14 PM »
Except the hope wasn't really about a new year, just men returning home from a savage war to a small island already ravaged with deaths for people to die in sight of home.

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2016, 04:58:37 PM »
OK, I misunderstood your first sentence.

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2016, 05:00:28 PM »
Except the hope wasn't really about a new year, just men returning home from a savage war to a small island already ravaged with deaths for people to die in sight of home.
Yes, these people had survived the horrors of the Western Front and were on their way home to a peaceful life without the fear of a violent death at any second.
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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2016, 05:01:48 PM »
The New Year's day date of the tragedy just adds to the poignancy by its irony.

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 05:28:27 PM »
"God" moves in mysterious ways ... the sadistic old sod.


 I don't really see it as appropriate to divert this sort of thread into another jejune antitheism piece.

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2016, 05:34:27 PM »

 I don't really see it as appropriate to divert this sort of thread into another jejune antitheism piece.

OK man, I will remove it.

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2016, 12:46:17 AM »
Thanks, Leonard, appreciated

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2018, 03:06:01 PM »
A friend has just told me that their grandfather survived this because they shut the gates at Kyle so that he didn't get on the boat. The boat was the Iolaire. It will be an odd day on the centenary.

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2018, 03:56:42 PM »
It's not forgotten. A very dear friend of mne - a native of Berneray - lost her great uncle on the Iolar. By horrific happenstance, her husnand's uncle was lost on the Hood.
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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2018, 09:54:13 AM »
Aye. I have a friend who hailed from Bernaray, and whose great uncle was one of those lost on the Iolaire. Margaret talks of a great emptiness which haunted Lewis for decades; not only had the island lost proportionally more of its' young men to the war than the general populace, but the further disaster of losing two hundred more all but destroyed the community. That it survived was due to the older generation of men who had been too old to fight, and reliance of under-age, youngsters sent to work in croft and farm, who were themselves traumatised. It has been argued convincingly that the 'Wee Free' attitudes which pervade the island today owe much to the clinging to traditions which kept the community together. After all, on the mainland, The Free church folk are no different from CofS members outwardly....though unlike the Kirk, their membership is growing.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2018, 10:16:18 AM »
A friend has done an animated film of the tragedy, being shown on BBC Alba a number of times in the next few days. It's very moving.



https://www.thenational.scot/news/17299892.how-an-animator-hopes-to-heal-the-wounds-of-iolaire-tragedy/

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2023, 06:55:46 PM »
Another year, another anniversary

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Re: The tragedy of the Iolaire
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2023, 07:34:19 PM »
Another year, another anniversary
   
I don't know if you're familiar with the brilliant Skipinnish, NS, but this is worth a listen.
Powerful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA2LCLidj1Y
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."