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Nearly Sane

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New Cabinet
« on: July 11, 2016, 04:43:32 PM »
Given Theresa May will be new PM this week, one wonders  what the make up of the cabinet  will be. One suspects that there will be, and has to be for brexiteers, though possibly not Boris.


Leadsom Chancellor?
Gove Home Sec or Foreign Sec
Fox - Health or Defence


And you have to reward your own closest supporters so possibly Grayling for Home Sec?

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 04:49:40 PM »

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2016, 05:15:47 PM »
Wow, tons of people bellowing in my ear that May is tacking left, stealing Labour policies, we can live with her, and so on.   Eh?   I think this is naive. 
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 05:24:17 PM »
I wonder if Leadsom was promised a decent job to opt out. If so her performance over the last few days is a worry.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 05:27:33 PM »
Wow, tons of people bellowing in my ear that May is tacking left, stealing Labour policies, we can live with her, and so on.   Eh?   I think this is naive.
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 05:42:52 PM »
I wonder if Leadsom was promised a decent job to opt out. If so her performance over the last few days is a worry.

I sincerely hope not, she seems like a loose cannon, who would do more harm than good.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 06:01:09 PM »
I think one pressure on her is that she only has a 12 seat majority so the Brexiters can threaten to vote down any Brexit light ideas she may come up with. So I'm hoping for a full on Brexit agenda.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2016, 06:03:06 PM »
I think one pressure on her is that she only has a 12 seat majority so the Brexiters can threaten to vote down any Brexit light ideas she may come up with. So I'm hoping for a full on Brexit agenda.
What are Brexit light ideas?

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 06:11:08 PM »
So I'm hoping for a full on Brexit agenda.
SAo, what does a 'full Brexit agenda' look like, JK?  Andrea Leadsom, Michael Gove and Boris seemed to have problems outlining one.
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 06:13:16 PM »
I wonder if Leadsom was promised a decent job to opt out. If so her performance over the last few days is a worry.
I suspect that it was as much a realisation that she wasn't going to get the support from what she felt were her natural constituency - the women in the party.
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2016, 06:24:57 PM »
What are Brexit light ideas?
EEA and all that shit!!!

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2016, 06:26:44 PM »
SAo, what does a 'full Brexit agenda' look like, JK?  Andrea Leadsom, Michael Gove and Boris seemed to have problems outlining one.
Where we are trading with the world as others do like India and Australia etc., i.e. not part of the Single Market's political project.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 06:37:00 PM »
Where we are trading with the world as others do like India and Australia etc., i.e. not part of the Single Market's political project.
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 06:39:36 PM »
EEA and all that shit!!!
which some of the Brexiteers in the Tory party support. Which means you cannot assume them to be homogeneous, same as with Leave voters.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 06:43:49 PM »
Where we are trading with the world as others do like India and Australia etc., i.e. not part of the Single Market's political project.
Do you know that places 'like India and Australia' want to trade with us?  After all, following the UK's accession to the EU back in the 70s, Australia radically refocussed its priorities towards its own neighbours - Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, etc.
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2016, 06:56:40 PM »
I think one pressure on her is that she only has a 12 seat majority so the Brexiters can threaten to vote down any Brexit light ideas she may come up with. So I'm hoping for a full on Brexit agenda.
But when Brexit is seen as toxic that majority will go anyway. Why dya think Leadsom followed Farage, Gove and Johnson?

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2016, 09:39:33 AM »
I think one pressure on her is that she only has a 12 seat majority so the Brexiters can threaten to vote down any Brexit light ideas she may come up with. So I'm hoping for a full on Brexit agenda.
Most of the House is against Brexit. She might lose the support of some of her MPs, but she will gain support from elsewhere.
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 09:40:44 AM »
Where we are trading with the world as others do like India and Australia etc., i.e. not part of the Single Market's political project.

We already trade with India and Australia. This is more about how we trade (or not) with out biggest trading partner.
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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 05:44:31 PM »
which some of the Brexiteers in the Tory party support. Which means you cannot assume them to be homogeneous, same as with Leave voters.
I was just explaining what was meant by the term Brexit light.

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 05:47:39 PM »
I was just explaining what was meant by the term Brexit light.
There is no such thing as Brexit light - we are either a member state of the EU or we aren't. Any settlement in which we are no longer a member of the EU is Brexit and is clearly complying with the result of the referendum that only asked whether or not we should be a member of the EU - no other question was asked.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2016, 05:48:58 PM »
Do you know that places 'like India and Australia' want to trade with us?  After all, following the UK's accession to the EU back in the 70s, Australia radically refocussed its priorities towards its own neighbours - Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, etc.
People are always looking for more trade, so their eggs aren't all in one basket.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2016, 05:55:07 PM »
But when Brexit is seen as toxic that majority will go anyway. Why dya think Leadsom followed Farage, Gove and Johnson?
But Brexit isn't toxic, except seen by the hysterically naïve.

Farage was never in the Tory government, Boris got stabbed by Gove and Gove was seen as a risk to the PM-ship, and Leadsom was a wee lass who looked over the parapet into the real world and wet her pants.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2016, 06:01:36 PM »
Most of the House is against Brexit. She might lose the support of some of her MPs, but she will gain support from elsewhere.
And you think that will look like a strong PM-ship and government? And what about the mandate from 17 million people to leave the EU? They won't be too chuffed of parliament going against their will.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2016, 06:04:15 PM »
And you think that will look like a strong PM-ship and government? And what about the mandate from 17 million people to leave the EU? They won't be too chuffed of parliament going against their will.
I thought those 17 million were all in favour of the UK parliament being sovereign - clearly not.

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Re: New Cabinet
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2016, 06:06:19 PM »
We already trade with India and Australia. This is more about how we trade (or not) with out biggest trading partner.
Well no it's not. It is about uncoupling ourselves from an insane political project which is falling apart fast.