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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1625 on: September 13, 2019, 07:51:25 PM »
Donald has a lightbulb moment, though not an especially illuminating one.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/13/trump-orange-skin-hue-lightbulbs-energy-efficient

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1626 on: September 22, 2019, 05:42:02 AM »
...Dr Who is British.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1627 on: September 24, 2019, 05:49:30 PM »
Meanwhile it looks like impeachment might be more likely as more Democrats coming out in support.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1628 on: September 24, 2019, 09:04:18 PM »

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« Reply #1629 on: September 25, 2019, 08:36:16 AM »
[quo >:(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49814927
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No doubt all Trump's sycophants, who think he can do no wrong, will support him to the hilt.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1630 on: September 25, 2019, 12:37:17 PM »
[quo >:(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49814927


No doubt all Trump's sycophants, who think he can do no wrong, will support him to the hilt.

Most of this information you present here seems to come to you via the BBC or the Guardian, try somewhere else.

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« Reply #1631 on: September 25, 2019, 12:54:02 PM »
Most of this information you present here seems to come to you via the BBC or the Guardian, try somewhere else.

Regards, ippy.

Why should we?

IF you think the info is wrong point out how. If not just stop with your ridiculous vendetta against these two organisations.
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« Reply #1632 on: September 25, 2019, 01:37:59 PM »
Why should we?

IF you think the info is wrong point out how. If not just stop with your ridiculous vendetta against these two organisations.

I didn't say either way deliberately but surly it must be good or better or preferable to gather information from as wide a spectrum of sources as possible before making up your mind about any subject and equally good to avoid the sources that declare you persona non grata if you don't align yourself with their viewpoint, I would have thought, if you haven't noticed this persona thing with some outlets more than others where have you been?

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« Reply #1633 on: September 25, 2019, 02:14:44 PM »
I didn't say either way deliberately but surly it must be good or better or preferable to gather information from as wide a spectrum of sources as possible before making up your mind about any subject and equally good to avoid the sources that declare you persona non grata if you don't align yourself with their viewpoint, I would have thought, if you haven't noticed this persona thing with some outlets more than others where have you been?

Perhaps - some outlets (say, Fox News) are not journalism, they are propoganda masquerading as journalism, the news equivalent of WWE as sport.  Others, such as the Daily Mail, have a demonstrable  history of only reporting some of the facts, and building narratives that suit their ideological perspective based upon that.

The Guardian, whilst with a well-established left-of-centre ideological point of view, at least reports the available facts in as much of their entirety as is viable - they then produce opinion influenced by their take on those facts, the facts themselves are there.

The BBC is consistently one of the most even-handed, issue-neutral journalistic outlets in the world.  Right and left extremes in pretty much equal measure criticise the coverage claiming bias against them - individual presenters and shows have an inclination one way or the other, to the point where there are even internal arguments played out (Andrew Neil and the Mash Report springs to mind, recently), but as an organisation, overall they've proven consistently reliable on the vast majority of issues to the point where, if there is a consistent criticism, it's that in the quest for balance they give the oxygen of publicity to extremist nonsense that has no place in the public realm: climate change deniers, anti-vaxxers, pseudoscience homeopaths, Nigel Farage and the like.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1634 on: September 27, 2019, 12:52:39 PM »
Most of this information you present here seems to come to you via the BBC or the Guardian, try somewhere else.

Regards, ippy.

OK. Here's the memorandum  of the telephone conversation:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

Note CNN calls it a transcript, but it is not, it's a reconstruction from notes taken during the call. Anyway, the text on the page is exactly what the Trump administration released.

Here you can read the whistleblower letter

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/26/whistleblower-trump-ukraine-read-in-full-text-document

Yes, I know it's a Guardian story, but it has the full letter published so you can make up your own mind.

Having read both those documents, I think Trump is as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo.
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« Reply #1635 on: September 27, 2019, 01:45:02 PM »
I too think Trump is guilty as charged.
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« Reply #1636 on: September 27, 2019, 02:14:16 PM »
OK. Here's the memorandum  of the telephone conversation:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

Note CNN calls it a transcript, but it is not, it's a reconstruction from notes taken during the call. Anyway, the text on the page is exactly what the Trump administration released.

Here you can read the whistleblower letter

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/26/whistleblower-trump-ukraine-read-in-full-text-document

Yes, I know it's a Guardian story, but it has the full letter published so you can make up your own mind.

Having read both those documents, I think Trump is as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo.

I've had a brief look at both links given in your post and can't see any connection with our brexit goings on.

The only connection I think there might be is where out of the continuing sheer desperation of remainers to use anything they can find to flout leave that they're trying to make some sort of, or somehow connect the general negative feelings some people have for Trump and to hopefully plant very similar feelings about Trump on to Boris into the minds general populace over here in the UK.

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« Reply #1637 on: September 27, 2019, 02:17:37 PM »
The behaviour of Boris and his buddy, Trump, is idiotic at best and is doing neither of their countries any good at all. >:(
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« Reply #1638 on: September 27, 2019, 02:29:23 PM »
The behaviour of Boris and his buddy, Trump, is idiotic at best and is doing neither of their countries any good at all. >:(

Looks like it's working.

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« Reply #1639 on: September 27, 2019, 03:32:17 PM »
Looks like it's working.

Regards, ippy

Hopefully people will see sense and Boris and Trump will be consigned to the sewer of history where they both belong. >:(
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« Reply #1640 on: September 27, 2019, 03:51:55 PM »
Hopefully people will see sense and Boris and Trump will be consigned to the sewer of history where they both belong. >:(

Fine I'm OK with that L R as long as he gets us out of the EU, hopefully, before he goes.

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« Reply #1641 on: September 27, 2019, 03:57:36 PM »
Fine I'm OK with that L R as long as he gets us out of the EU, hopefully, before he goes.

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Hopefully people will see sense and realise we need the EU, probably even more than the EU needs us.
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« Reply #1642 on: September 27, 2019, 04:23:12 PM »
Hopefully people will see sense and realise we need the EU, probably even more than the EU needs us.

Well there's the thing L R remain or leave we both think we've got it right, the biggest part of that difference is there was a free and fair vote for leave or stay, well you know the rest.

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« Reply #1643 on: September 27, 2019, 04:33:38 PM »
Well there's the thing L R remain or leave we both think we've got it right, the biggest part of that difference is there was a free and fair vote for leave or stay, well you know the rest.

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Fixed that for you.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1644 on: September 27, 2019, 04:37:04 PM »
Fixed that for you.

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Like I keep on saying we'll never be agreeing on this one.

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« Reply #1645 on: September 27, 2019, 04:45:49 PM »
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« Reply #1646 on: September 27, 2019, 04:55:14 PM »
Like I keep on saying we'll never be agreeing on this one.

Regards, ippy.

If only multiple court cases had made it clear that one side repeatedly violated campaign finance regulations,  if only one side hadn't demonstrably accepted money from foreign powers to influence the domestic campaign, if only there wasn't a well-documented investigation into the deliberate lies of one side of the debate....

If only we had that.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1647 on: September 27, 2019, 06:15:24 PM »
I've had a brief look at both links given in your post and can't see any connection with our brexit goings on.

Why would there be? This is the Trump thread.
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« Reply #1648 on: September 30, 2019, 10:18:37 AM »
I wonder if Trump and Boris are related, they are getting more and more like each other? Boris has now been accused of inappropriately touching women, just like Trump! :o
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« Reply #1649 on: September 30, 2019, 10:29:28 AM »
Like I keep on saying we'll never be agreeing on this one.

I think the point is that the Electoral Commission doesn't agree with you: https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/media-statement-vote-leave

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