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ProfessorDavey

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Re: And then there were none
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2017, 09:27:59 PM »
and ceasing to be a member of the Single Market.
Not true - the official Leave campaign's official manifesto was clear that UK would remain part of the 'free trade zone' that extends from Iceland to Turkey - another way of describing the single market/customs union. Exactly the reverse of the current position that we will leave both.

Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: And then there were none
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2017, 05:41:01 AM »
That would give the EU a very strong hand. They would stick their heels in and present us with a very soft Brexit i.e. essentially still in the EU and so they would win either way. The nation voted for Brexit and that is what we should go for.

And as it goes the Leave lot did set out some firm parameters like on immigration and "Taking Control"  and ceasing to be a member of the Single Market.
How is the collection by brexiters for the fund to compensate those damaged by Brexit coming on.
Those who were bombed out were rehoused during the war and everybody whose place of work was destroyed was allocated work. How is it coming along for Brexit?

Jack Knave

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Re: And then there were none
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2017, 04:25:59 PM »
The reverse is also true - it massively strengthens May's hand in negotiations if she is able to say to the EU that she needs to get any proposed deal past the electorate.
So they would say tuff shit you can't have it, if it would mean the electorate would reject it forcing the referendum decision to stay in the EU; which is what the EU want.

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Re: And then there were none
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2017, 04:29:32 PM »
And also being in the single market, and in the customs union, ..............etc. There was absolutely no clearly defined view on brexit would mean from the Leave side - it was deliberately portrayed as all things to all people.
Those two are a lie and you know it.

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Re: And then there were none
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2017, 04:32:19 PM »
Not true - the official Leave campaign's official manifesto was clear that UK would remain part of the 'free trade zone' that extends from Iceland to Turkey - another way of describing the single market/customs union. Exactly the reverse of the current position that we will leave both.
You dumb asses need to learn the difference between "Membership" and "Access".

Jack Knave

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Re: And then there were none
« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2017, 04:34:00 PM »
How is the collection by brexiters for the fund to compensate those damaged by Brexit coming on.
Those who were bombed out were rehoused during the war and everybody whose place of work was destroyed was allocated work. How is it coming along for Brexit?
You have proof for this?

And who said that this was war?

ProfessorDavey

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Re: And then there were none
« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2017, 07:43:24 PM »
You dumb asses need to learn the difference between "Membership" and "Access".
The term used was neither 'member' nor 'access', but 'still part of' - that is clearer more aligned with membership than mere access, noting that pretty well every country on the planet has 'access' to the single market - albeit in most cases with tariffs and non tariff barriers. I suspect the only countries without access are those where there are sanctions - so perhaps North Korea and a tiny number of other pariah states.

And note the word 'still' - in other words remain a member of.

The official Leave campaign clearly stated that we would 'still be part of' the free trade zone extending from Iceland to the Russian border - i.e. the single market/customs union. That was clearly a lie as we will no longer be part of that free trade zone.