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Nearly Sane

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'Protesting'?
« on: July 29, 2017, 10:19:17 PM »
Or just burning stuff because it's fun.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40756629
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 10:22:23 PM by Nearly Sane »
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Owlswing

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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2017, 12:45:04 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2017, 08:29:31 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 29, 2017, 10:19:17 PM
Or just burning stuff because it's fun.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40756629

I suspect that is the case for many. Whilst peaceful protests are acceptable, there is no excuse when they turn violent.
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trippymonkey

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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2017, 09:08:31 AM »
Of course naff all was said about the guilt of said guy ?!!?!
No surprise there then. ;)

From what I saw on the TV, the police were very well restrained - probably so none of the Eff-wits could make some ridiculous claim against them, eh ?!!?!?
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2017, 09:47:15 AM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on July 30, 2017, 09:08:31 AM
Of course naff all was said about the guilt of said guy ?!!?
Guilty of what?

I've read the article linked to in the OP and two others linked to from there and - unless I missed it - nowhere does it state what the man was allegedly guilty of, only a bland comment about police trying to stop a car from which the man ran. Given the Mark Duggan affair I can't say I blame him.
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2017, 04:48:17 PM »
Is that ALL you saw ??
He was supposed to have swallowed something which is why the cops were after him in the first place !!!
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2017, 05:00:49 PM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on July 30, 2017, 04:48:17 PM
Is that ALL you saw ??
He was supposed to have swallowed something which is why the cops were after him in the first place !!!
My understanding of the articles I've read put things in a different order.

Police tried to stop a car (reason unknown).

He escaped from the car on foot and legged it, finally making it to a shop where the police apprehended him and he swallowed "an object" (currently unknown) at which point he became ill and was pronounced dead in hospital.
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2017, 05:05:15 PM »
SOOO What may we assume was IN that little gobfull eh ?!!?!? Not a few throat lozenges, eh ?!!?!?
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2017, 05:07:20 PM »
I don't see any point in assuming anything.
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2017, 06:54:43 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on July 30, 2017, 05:07:20 PM
I don't see any point in assuming anything.

Me neither ! We don't know the full facts yet.

Quote from: trippymonkey on July 30, 2017, 05:05:15 PM
SOOO What may we assume was IN that little gobfull eh ?!!?!? Not a few throat lozenges, eh ?!!?!?

Not our business. It's not illegal as far as I know to swallow something. If you suspect he had drugs they may have been for own use & not worth the cops chasing him. That would put the wind up anyone.
A person is innocent until proven guilty, best not to be suspicious or speculate.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2017, 07:28:42 PM »
Swallowing, say, a large quantity of drugs is dangerous and I can't see how the police could do anything other than try to stop him, not only from an evidential point of view but from a welfare one. That said, it might not be drugs or anything illicit.

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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2017, 08:35:18 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2017, 08:46:50 PM »
That's cleared up then. Wonder what it was - or if we will be told?

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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2017, 08:48:26 PM »
Quote from: Robinson on August 02, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
That's cleared up then. Wonder what it was - or if we will be told?


probably a Kinder Egg  Surprise!
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2017, 11:40:55 PM »
Very good.
I can think of kind-er surprises though, poor bloke.

Going back to op, there was a peaceful, vigil like protest in one place which was good. Nothing wrong with protesting.

Seems like some wanted to jump on the bandwagon with the riot.
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 09:18:31 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 09:48:36 AM »
Not yet, they're not.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2017, 06:35:08 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40820468

He had a mix of paracetamol and caffeine in his throat.
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2017, 06:38:43 PM »
Quote from: Floo on August 03, 2017, 06:35:08 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40820468

He had a mix of paracetamol and caffeine in his throat.
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2017, 06:39:55 PM »
You can get over-the-counter painkillers like that.

ETA: as  NS said.
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 06:40:45 PM »
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trippymonkey

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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2017, 09:29:47 PM »
So why try to swallow it if it isn't poisonous ???
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2017, 09:44:12 PM »
Did he really try and swallow it at that time as we've been told, or did he take it earlier as a pain killer?
Will we ever know?
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Re: 'Protesting'?
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 09:45:33 PM »
It was in some kind of bag, wasn't it ???
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Rhiannon

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2017, 09:46:59 PM »
Quote from: Robinson on August 03, 2017, 09:44:12 PM
Did he really try and swallow it at that time as we've been told, or did he take it earlier as a pain killer?
Will we ever know?

The description on the statement is that he had a 'package' containing the paracetamol and caffeine in his throat. I don't think he'd have swallowed that for pain relief.
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