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Nearly Sane

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It was twenty years ago....
« on: August 31, 2017, 08:06:09 PM »
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 08:16:45 PM »
Brutal  ;D
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 08:20:09 PM »
It was madness indeed: yes it was unfortunate a relatively young person with children died, and no doubt there have always been such family tragedies and there always will be, but the overblown public hysteria of 20 years ago was disproportionate, ridiculous and embarrassing - at least Private Eye provided a balanced report at the time.

The hysteria still continues though, as is confirmed by the hyperbolic stuff in the media today, which is also disproportionate, ridiculous and embarrassing.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 08:25:07 PM »
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 08:30:47 PM »
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2017, 06:24:54 AM »
Gordon #2

Agreed.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2017, 08:38:24 AM »
I never liked Diana, and was gobsmacked over the hysteria her death created. If that appalling waste of money spent on all those flowers had been donated to charity it would have been much more worthwhile.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2017, 08:52:46 AM »
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2017, 06:19:42 PM »
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2017, 07:04:14 PM »
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2017, 08:37:06 AM »
Well I liked her, felt the collectie grief. Still do.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2017, 09:05:14 AM »
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2017, 09:11:55 AM »
Carol Ann Duffy's job is safe a while longer.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2017, 09:55:51 AM »
Quote from: Floo on September 02, 2017, 09:05:14 AM
MEGA, MEGA YUCK!  ::)
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2017, 09:56:28 AM »
Diana was an empty-headed waste of space.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2017, 10:25:31 AM »
Quote from: SteveH on September 02, 2017, 09:56:28 AM
Diana was an empty-headed waste of space.
Far from it. She was - at that particular moment in history - largely alone (that's to say the first major public figure) to demonstrate that people suffering (in those days dying) from AIDS weren't contagious lepers, contrary to much of the ignorant and fearful-going-on-histrionic rhetoric of the time.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2017, 10:37:45 AM »
Quote from: SteveH on September 02, 2017, 09:56:28 AM
Diana was an empty-headed waste of space.

I remember her toe curling "As a wise songwriter has written, I believe that children are our future".
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2017, 10:57:44 AM »
There's no doubt the lady was instumental in breaking the taboo regarding AIDS patients - and, convinced republican that I am, I honour her for that.
However she used her perceived vulnerability as a weapon in the war with the Windsors - and was quick, both to condemn the press when it intruded - but use it as an effective tool in her 'battle'.
A complex person, she deserves a balanced verdict from history.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2017, 11:04:09 AM »
Quote from: Shaker on September 02, 2017, 10:25:31 AM
Far from it. She was - at that particular moment in history - largely alone (that's to say the first major public figure) to demonstrate that people suffering (in those days dying) from AIDS weren't contagious lepers, contrary to much of the ignorant and fearful-going-on-histrionic rhetoric of the time.

I'd have to concede that she does deserve some credit for that.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2017, 11:05:23 AM »
Without going into details, my thoughts about Diana are not just a gut reaction, but based on some information I have.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2017, 11:15:34 AM »
Quote from: SteveH on September 02, 2017, 09:56:28 AM
Diana was an empty-headed waste of space.

We can always rely on SteveH for an intelligent, moderate, considered post befitting one of his age and experience.
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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2017, 11:17:31 AM »
Quote from: Maeght on September 02, 2017, 11:15:34 AM
We can always rely on SteveH for an intelligent, moderate, considered post befitting one of his age and experience.

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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2017, 12:22:15 PM »
Whatever Diana was as a person, it is the over-emotional and, to me, rather false attitude of people and the media today that comes across as rather shallow. It puts the focus on people who want the focus to be on them.


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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2017, 12:26:23 PM »
Quote from: SteveH on September 02, 2017, 09:56:28 AM
Diana was an empty-headed waste of space.

So, despite unnecessarily attacking Floo for her posting style, you are now trying to copy her. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Leave Floo alone, she is one of this forum's stars.

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Re: It was twenty years ago....
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2017, 01:15:58 PM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on September 02, 2017, 12:26:23 PM


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