French people are really thick, says MP.

[Rhiannon]

Ffs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43836156

[floo]

Ffs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43836156

Where does it say French people are thick, it seems like a sensible thing to do?

[Nearly Sane]

Ffs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43836156

surely sausage is a physical description?

[Nearly Sane]

Where does it say French people are thick, it seems like a sensible thing to do?

Why is it sensible? Are you saying if someone says it's a veggie sausage, you, or the French people who being implied as thick, would no know it was a sausage with no meat?

[Rhiannon]

Where does it say French people are thick, it seems like a sensible thing to do?

products such as vegan sausages and other vegetarian alternatives are confusing for consumers.

They really aren’t.

[Rhiannon]

surely sausage is a physical description?

It’s way of describing a shape. Sausage dogs aren’t actually made of sausage.

[Nearly Sane]

It’s way of describing a shape. Sausage dogs aren’t actually made of sausage.

exactly, I don't ever think sausage in that sense means meat. But then I'm not French.

[Rhiannon]

Currently soy and nut mills are described as ‘milk alternatives’ , but in the past they were destined as ‘soya drinks’, which was misleading as I don’t use milk as a drink. Ditto yogurt - I know what to expect from a soya yoghurt, but a soya dessert?

Presumably vegan sauasgaes will now be labelled as ‘vegan sticks’ or something. Which is definitely confusing.

[Gordon]

Reminds me of the 'Party Games' episode of 'Yes Minister' many years ago in which the EU decided the UK version of the sausage should be called 'Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube'.

[Rhiannon]

There’s a link in the article to the EU banning the use of the terms ‘butter’ and ‘cheese’ for non-dairy items. But in this country we have a very long tradition of making fruit butters and cheeses. Along with elderflower champagne, of course, which is now labelled ‘presse’.

[floo]

Why is it sensible? Are you saying if someone says it's a veggie sausage, you, or the French people who being implied as thick, would no know it was a sausage with no meat?

I object to the French being called thick, having French ancestry on my Father's side of the family. I think it needs to be made quite clear that the sausages don't contain meat, as most people would expect them to do so, imo, it wouldn't occur to me that there was a veggie alternative, YUCK!

[Nearly Sane]

There’s a link in the article to the EU banning the use of the terms ‘butter’ and ‘cheese’ for non-dairy items. But in this country we have a very long tradition of making fruit butters and cheeses. Along with elderflower champagne, of course, which is now labelled ‘presse’.

I get the champagne thing. But there isn't a regional specific method for a sausage.

[Nearly Sane]

I object to the French being called thick, having French ancestry on my Father's side of the family. I think it needs to be made quite clear that the sausages don't contain meat, as most people would expect them to do so, imo, it wouldn't occur to me that there was a veggie alternative, YUCK!

Then object to the MP. Rhiannon is saying they aren't think and don't need to be told that vegan sausages don't contain meat. Do you honestly think that something that says 'vegan sausage' has meat in it?

[Rhiannon]

I object to the French being called thick, having French ancestry on my Father's side of the family. I think it needs to be made quite clear that the sausages don't contain meat, as most people would expect them to do so, imo, it wouldn't occur to me that there was a veggie alternative, YUCK!

Ffs, Floo, it’s the French Parliament that is saying they are too stupid to tell a veggie sausage from a meat one. What do you think a ‘vegetarian sausage’ should contain? Foie gras?

Vegetarian and vegan sausages have been around commercially since I went veggie almost 30 years ago. And for someone living in Wales you should at least know what Glamorgan sausages are made from.

http://www.visitwales.com/explore/traditions-history/recipes/glamorgan-sausages

[floo]

Ffs, Floo, it’s the French Parliament that is saying they are too stupid to tell a veggie sausage from a meat one. What do you think a ‘vegetarian sausage’ should contain? Foie gras?

Vegetarian and vegan sausages have been around commercially since I went veggie almost 30 years ago. And for someone living in Wales you should at least know what Glamorgan sausages are made from.

Never heard of the things!

[Rhiannon]

Never heard of the things!

Again, the link. Visit Wales have.

http://www.visitwales.com/explore/traditions-history/recipes/glamorgan-sausages

[Nearly Sane]

Never heard of the things!

Vegetarian sausages?

[Rhiannon]

Vegetarian sausages?

Linda McCartney never made it up the M4.

[Nearly Sane]

Linda McCartney never made it up the M4.

presumably a nut roast would be banned too?

[floo]

Again, the link. Visit Wales have.

http://www.visitwales.com/explore/traditions-history/recipes/glamorgan-sausages

Well they don't sell them in the Tesco store in which I shop.

Our middle daughter is a veggie and would no doubt like the things.

[Rhiannon]

Well they don't sell them in the Tesco store in which I shop.

We really need a facepalm emoticon.

[floo]

We really need a facepalm emoticon.

What is that?

[Rhiannon]

presumably a nut roast would be banned too?

Not sure. You can roast pretty much anything. Veggie lasagne would be though. Veggie paella ditto. And cauliflower steak.

[Rhiannon]

What is that?

An emoticon representing a facepalm. Apple do one but it may not be visible.

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[floo]

An emoticon representing a facepalm. Apple do one but it may not be visible.

🤦‍♀️

What is a facepalm, not with you?