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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2018, 01:26:52 AM »
and nuclear power plants are sited in rural/coastal places.

You think that nuclear power stations rely on the local bobbies for security?

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170504-the-crucial-role-of-britains-nuclear-police
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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2018, 06:53:44 AM »
Rural area:- Village, Hamlet, Town and Fringe with less than (can't remember how many) people.
(Got that off internet - 'Definition of rural area' in PDF)

Wigginhall, you're on form :-).

Steven H. I dislike the idea of forcing anyone into the armed forces but does National Service have to mean military? Agree with encouraging voluntary work.
No, it doesn't - that's why I said "any kind of National Service".
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Routinely arming the police is an unattractive idea to me but I feel they know stuff I don't which is why the idea has been profferred - as said, not a new idea.
The idea of routinely arming the police is regularly touted by some swivel-eyed right-wing knob-job or other, and as routinely rejected by all sane people.
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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2018, 04:09:58 PM »
Ta Steven, I thought you didn't just mean military but when i googled all I got was military! I wouldn't have liked to be forced into military service, not gonnna happen now but I feel for those younger. Some got out of it in the past, others were forced; bad scene, imagine if they had to go into a war in which they didn't believe & ended up killed?

As for non-military NS which some countries did in the past, who wants everything mapped out from age 18? Not fair, some would be suitable& embrace it (think back to school days) but not others. Lots of youngsters at 18 are extremely young & need a bit of protection while others are more mature. How can one generalise?

I agree with you about routinely arming the cops.
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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2018, 04:53:03 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44173954

Another school shooting in America, their police are but it wasn't prevented!

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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2018, 05:00:21 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44173954

Another school shooting in America, their police are but it wasn't prevented!

Don't think the argument here is about prevention but ability to react. So in the London Bridge attacks, the ability to get armed police to an attack quickly.

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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2018, 05:19:30 PM »
Don't think the argument here is about prevention but ability to react. So in the London Bridge attacks, the ability to get armed police to an attack quickly.

By which time the damage is done anyway, guns don't prevent massacres.

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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2018, 05:38:10 PM »
By which time the damage is done anyway, guns don't prevent massacres.
And again that isn't the point which my post made clear. Do you want unarmed policeman trying to take on those who are armed? The police who turned up to London Bridge were in a better position to deal with the murderers because they were armed.

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Re: Armed rural police
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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #33 on: Today at 07:48:49 PM »
And again that isn't the point which my post made clear. Do you want unarmed policeman trying to take on those who are armed? The police who turned up to London Bridge were in a better position to deal with the murderers because they were armed.
In countries where the police are routinely armed, they seem to have just as much trouble with gun massacres as we do, if not more. Even in the USA, these events are so rare that basing your law enforcement policies around them is plain daft.

If we arm our police officers, it is likely that accidental deaths of innocent people at the hands of police officers will increase. On the other hand, I seriously doubt that you will reduce the number of gun massacres by terrorists.
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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #34 on: Today at 07:53:40 PM »
In countries where the police are routinely armed, they seem to have just as much trouble with gun massacres as we do, if not more. Even in the USA, these events are so rare that basing your law enforcement policies around them is plain daft.

If we arm our police officers, it is likely that accidental deaths of innocent people at the hands of police officers will increase. On the other hand, I seriously doubt that you will reduce the number of gun massacres by terrorists.

Seems to ignore my post and argue against something of your own creation. Again the suggestion isn't about prevention but reaction.

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« Reply #35 on: Today at 08:24:21 PM »
Seems to ignore my post and argue against something of your own creation. Again the suggestion isn't about prevention but reaction.

Itís not rocket science. Rural areas are awash with legal guns. The next Derek Bird has a better chance of being stopped - reaction, not prevention - of armed police are in the area. This doesnít need to mean all police are routinely armed, just that arms are accessible quickly for trained personnel to use.

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« Reply #36 on: Today at 08:34:21 PM »
Itís not rocket science. Rural areas are awash with legal guns. The next Derek Bird has a better chance of being stopped - reaction, not prevention - of armed police are in the area. This doesnít need to mean all police are routinely armed, just that arms are accessible quickly for trained personnel to use.
Agree, and the question is about how that might be best achieved.

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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #37 on: Today at 10:25:44 PM »
Itís not rocket science. Rural areas are awash with legal guns. The next Derek Bird has a better chance of being stopped - reaction, not prevention - of armed police are in the area. This doesnít need to mean all police are routinely armed, just that arms are accessible quickly for trained personnel to use.
That is already the case.
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Re: Armed rural police
« Reply #38 on: Today at 10:26:47 PM »
That is already the case.

Well clearly not readily enough, or no one would think there is an issue.