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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #475 on: September 15, 2018, 02:10:57 PM »


Finding out how the 'Living-Cell' works is an achievement that this world needs so desperately...and here it is. It is a dual electric force spawned only from the science that states unequivocally that Almighty God and Jesus Christ exist in exactly the status and form that they tell us about...and that the energy generated from the healthy replicating cell is what organizes our attitudes and that our attitudes govern the healthier mechanics of our existence...especially the bit about loving our neighbours. When we run out of the ability to generate this resource ourselves and we apply righteous teaching to the problem then there is access to the primary source of all universal energy...to Almighty God's hidden reserves, accessible, only by the accurate and meek attitude displayed by Jesus Christ, towards his father, and his God, Jehovah. 

It is a science that will not work if we don't apply ourselves to it, and the global attitude of the world today says that many aren't trying...which is a pity because of the perilous reasons previously stated.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #476 on: September 15, 2018, 03:06:27 PM »
If we are tempted to respond to NM's nonsense, maybe we should pledge to put at least £1 into the next charity box we come across. :D
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #477 on: September 15, 2018, 03:38:21 PM »
Finding out how the 'Living-Cell' works is an achievement that this world needs so desperately...and here it is. It is a dual electric force spawned only from the science that states unequivocally that Almighty God and Jesus Christ exist in exactly the status and form that they tell us about...and that the energy generated from the healthy replicating cell is what organizes our attitudes and that our attitudes govern the healthier mechanics of our existence...especially the bit about loving our neighbours. When we run out of the ability to generate this resource ourselves and we apply righteous teaching to the problem then there is access to the primary source of all universal energy...to Almighty God's hidden reserves, accessible, only by the accurate and meek attitude displayed by Jesus Christ, towards his father, and his God, Jehovah. It is a science that will not work if we don't apply ourselves to it, and the global attitude of the world today says that many aren't trying...which is a pity because of the perilous reasons previously stated.
Garbage. We know exactly how a living cell works, how it ingests nutrient, replacates and even degrades - and we have known for decades. That, NM, is called 'Cellular biology'. It's also called 'science' Unlike your mix of bad theology, non-existant science, and neoGnostic mysticism. You might like to link to this site - which has articles regarding real Christians involved in real, actual sciences - rather than the fantasy you seem to indulge in but provide no evidence to substantiate. https://biologos.org/about-us/
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #478 on: September 15, 2018, 03:56:35 PM »

Garbage.
We know exactly how a living cell works, how it ingests nutrient, replacates and even degrades - and we have known for decades.
That, NM, is called 'Cellular biology'.
It's also called 'science'
Unlike your mix of bad theology, non-existant science, and neoGnostic mysticism.

It all fits in with a much bigger picture so I'm inclined to believe Almighty God on this matter. He says that his superabundant, dynamic energy, or, to satisfy your machinations, Mighty Power, is at the root of the entire book universal sciences (not in those exact words), and I have complied with that teaching...more than that, I have proven, to myself, at least, that our hysterical behaviour, in our youth, destroys our genetic health, and when it has gone, only the genetic intervention of Jesus Christ's accurate teaching can intercede with an all-round, positive, outcome...even if that outcome is just resurrection. This is what Jesus was saying when he said he had snatched the keys of life and death from Satan (afterthought...Those that follow me will never die)...he had taught us how we can escape the ether, that spiritual prison, that the unrighteous must remain in until that final resurrection  on Judgement Day.

   
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #479 on: September 15, 2018, 04:01:57 PM »
NM,

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Finding out how the 'Living-Cell' works is an achievement that this world needs so desperately...and here it is. It is a dual electric force spawned only from the science that states unequivocally that Almighty God and Jesus Christ exist in exactly the status and form that they tell us about...and that the energy generated from the healthy replicating cell is what organizes our attitudes and that our attitudes govern the healthier mechanics of our existence...especially the bit about loving our neighbours. When we run out of the ability to generate this resource ourselves and we apply righteous teaching to the problem then there is access to the primary source of all universal energy...to Almighty God's hidden reserves, accessible, only by the accurate and meek attitude displayed by Jesus Christ, towards his father, and his God, Jehovah. 

It is a science that will not work if we don't apply ourselves to it, and the global attitude of the world today says that many aren't trying...which is a pity because of the perilous reasons previously stated.

No-one can try to apply your “science’ because you’re entirely unable to demonstrate that it is science for the reasons I keep setting out and you keep ignoring. If you seriously think you are in possession of a scientific truth that the entire scientific community has somehow missed, then finally set it out for examination – you know, present the stuff that’s completely missing from your assertions: hypothesis, evidence, testing, theory, peer review, publication etc. After all, they're what's required for something to be science rather than mindless fantasy.

What are you so afraid of – being exposed as a fantabulist? It's a bit late for that wouldn't you say?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #480 on: September 15, 2018, 04:16:28 PM »
NM,

No-one can try to apply your “science’ because you’re entirely unable to demonstrate that it is science for the reasons I keep setting out and you keep ignoring. If you seriously think you are in possession of a scientific truth that the entire scientific community has somehow missed, then finally set it out for examination – you know, present the stuff that’s completely missing from your assertions: hypothesis, evidence, testing, theory, peer review, publication etc. After all, they're what's required for something to be science rather than mindless fantasy.

What are you so afraid of – being exposed as a fantabulist? It's a bit late for that wouldn't you say?

It is very difficult indeed to comply with the the reasoning of rich-man sciences becauses they aren't interested in donating gifts...whereas, Almighty God and Jesus Christ are. The Holy Bible tells us of the single energy that formed all mass, all the fundamental laws, and the righteous science that guides us to the maximum potential of all sciences...wherein...nothing is impossible...we just have to talk  Almighty God's language...a scientific language that appeals to the meek rather than the rich.

 

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #481 on: September 15, 2018, 04:39:53 PM »
NM,

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It is very difficult indeed to comply with the the reasoning of rich-man sciences becauses they aren't interested in donating gifts...whereas, Almighty God and Jesus Christ are. The Holy Bible tells us of the single energy that formed all mass, all the fundamental laws, and the righteous science that guides us to the maximum potential of all sciences...wherein...nothing is impossible...we just have to talk  Almighty God's language...a scientific language that appeals to the meek rather than the rich.

I understand that you like to make various assertions of this type. Your problem though is that you want to arrogate for them the status of science, which cannot be the case until and unless you manage to provide any of the characteristics and properties necessary for the term "science". By all means call them other things if you wish – fantasy, imaginings, bad poetry, whatever – but you cannot claim then to be scientific when none of the conditions for science are met.

Why is this difficult for you to grasp?

Oh, and does it not occur to you that “rich-man scientists” would be delighted to find that your claims had some content given the benefit to humanity, the acclaim and the prizes that would follow if they did? Why not then give them something other than mindless assertions to help them do that?   
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #482 on: September 15, 2018, 04:50:55 PM »
Nick’s got a laboratory.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #483 on: September 15, 2018, 04:52:26 PM »
Rhi,

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Nick’s got a laboratory.

Lobotomy more like.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #484 on: September 15, 2018, 04:52:49 PM »
I lol'd.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #485 on: September 15, 2018, 05:05:58 PM »
Because the Living-Cell is very atomically aligned it is wise to see that it started life in the same electric furnace that all atoms came from...a star...any star...but most likely our star. It works on the micro scale of things just as atoms do and it is unlikely that, at its birth, it contained any perishable goods, like dna. For life to have become so abundant, in a very quick space of time, we must consider that these cells...part atoms...came here in their trillions and that life abounded in many different shapes and forms before  the reduction of their freedom was reduced by becoming bigger and bigger life-forms all seeking these same part-atoms to fuel their own particular life-styles...a life-style procured by the coming together of two such invisible part-atoms and, in the process bringing into their cellular arena a chemical behaviour that was easy to replicate by their coming together and subsequently, breaking away from each other, to continue their behaviour next door...or, if called away in an emergency, to anywhere in the body that called them, by pain, frustration, or, desire. All we have to do do now is fit them into the Periodic Table...and there is a place especially prepared for them...Number 0...zilch...zero...the place occupied before hydrogen because they represent an unformed atom...a hydrogen atom in the making but with only a higgs-field...naked...with no nuclear particles, indicating they were snatched out of the furnace too soon. The rest is just induced logic which leads to Jesus Christ.

 
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #486 on: September 15, 2018, 05:21:27 PM »
NM,

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Because the Living-Cell is very atomically aligned it is wise to see that it started life in the same electric furnace that all atoms came from...a star...any star...but most likely our star. It works on the micro scale of things just as atoms do and it is unlikely that, at its birth, it contained any perishable goods, like dna. For life to have become so abundant, in a very quick space of time, we must consider that these cells...part atoms...came here in their trillions and that life abounded in many different shapes and forms before  the reduction of their freedom was reduced by becoming bigger and bigger life-forms all seeking these same part-atoms to fuel their own particular life-styles...a life-style procured by the coming together of two such invisible part-atoms and, in the process bringing into their cellular arena a chemical behaviour that was easy to replicate by their coming together and subsequently, breaking away from each other, to continue their behaviour next door...or, if called away in an emergency, to anywhere in the body that called them, by pain, frustration, or. desire. All we have to do do now is fit them into the Periodic Table...and there is a place specially prepared for them...Number 0...zilch...zero. The place occupied before hydrogen because they represent an unformed atom...a hydrogen atom in the making but with only a higgs-field...naked...with no nuclear particles, indicating they were snatched out of the furnace too soon. The rest is just induced logic which leads to Jesus Christ.

Still no science then.

Just out of interest, can you actually read? I ask because I’ve explained to you several times now exactly why definitionally your ramblings cannot be science, and yet you show no sign of having read – let alone comprehended – the problem you’ve given yourself.

If you can read, what are you finding so difficult that you cannot address your problem?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #487 on: September 15, 2018, 05:33:06 PM »
Because the Living-Cell is very atomically aligned it is wise to see that it started life in the same electric furnace that all atoms came from...a star...any star...but most likely our star. It works on the micro scale of things just as atoms do and it is unlikely that, at its birth, it contained any perishable goods, like dna. For life to have become so abundant, in a very quick space of time, we must consider that these cells...part atoms...came here in their trillions and that life abounded in many different shapes and forms before  the reduction of their freedom was reduced by becoming bigger and bigger life-forms all seeking these same part-atoms to fuel their own particular life-styles...a life-style procured by the coming together of two such invisible part-atoms and, in the process bringing into their cellular arena a chemical behaviour that was easy to replicate by their coming together and subsequently, breaking away from each other, to continue their behaviour next door...or, if called away in an emergency, to anywhere in the body that called them, by pain, frustration, or, desire. All we have to do do now is fit them into the Periodic Table...and there is a place especially prepared for them...Number 0...zilch...zero...the place occupied before hydrogen because they represent an unformed atom...a hydrogen atom in the making but with only a higgs-field...naked...with no nuclear particles, indicating they were snatched out of the furnace too soon. The rest is just induced logic which leads to Jesus Christ.

 


To say that this is trash is an insult to trash.
You can spout it till your non-existant planet hits us and it won't work without evidence, peer reviewed, published evidence.
When are you going to realise this?
Stop trying to delude others into thinking you have a clue what you're talking about, NM. Not only have you no scientific basis for your assertion - if you had, you would have cited real evidence that would stand uo to scrutiny; but your theology is even less secure, being not remotely Biblical.
The only thing your witterings are likely to do is turn folk away from the Gospel.
Is that your intent?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #488 on: September 15, 2018, 06:46:50 PM »
Nick.
Can you please descibe, accurately and scientifically, what exactly a "part atom" is.
It seems fundamental to your story but you are very un- scientifically vague when it comes to scientific detail.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #489 on: September 15, 2018, 07:22:52 PM »
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Nick.
Can you please descibe, accurately and scientifically, what exactly a "part atom" is.
It seems fundamental to your story but you are very un- scientifically vague when it comes to scientific detail.

Sparky can't describe anything accurately or scientifically. That's his problem.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #490 on: September 15, 2018, 08:41:48 PM »
Because the Living-Cell is very atomically aligned it is wise to see that it started life in the same electric furnace that all atoms came from...a star...any star...but most likely our star. It works on the micro scale of things just as atoms do and it is unlikely that, at its birth, it contained any perishable goods, like dna. For life to have become so abundant, in a very quick space of time, we must consider that these cells...part atoms...came here in their trillions and that life abounded in many different shapes and forms before  the reduction of their freedom was reduced by becoming bigger and bigger life-forms all seeking these same part-atoms to fuel their own particular life-styles...a life-style procured by the coming together of two such invisible part-atoms and, in the process bringing into their cellular arena a chemical behaviour that was easy to replicate by their coming together and subsequently, breaking away from each other, to continue their behaviour next door...or, if called away in an emergency, to anywhere in the body that called them, by pain, frustration, or, desire. All we have to do do now is fit them into the Periodic Table...and there is a place especially prepared for them...Number 0...zilch...zero...the place occupied before hydrogen because they represent an unformed atom...a hydrogen atom in the making but with only a higgs-field...naked...with no nuclear particles, indicating they were snatched out of the furnace too soon. The rest is just induced logic which leads to Jesus Christ.

I've cracked it, Sriram's got something with his reincarnation, this post of Nick's, he's a reincarnated Stanley Unwin, have a look at this Wikki link :

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I'm pretty sure this fully explains Nick's posts, problem solved.

Regards to all, ippy and the next question?

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #491 on: September 16, 2018, 01:44:14 PM »

All atoms were formed in a very mechanical way...the same process, over and over again, and their superb electrical patterns the backdrop behind the 'periodic table'. This tells us that wild forces don't make atoms, but rather a course of events that can be scientifically described. That description defines a part-atom as the force that came together on this planet to form life, in all its manifestations. The sun being a terrific force with only marginal scientific understanding is the only and ideal candidate to explain all this phenomena...got to go...dinner time.

 

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« Reply #492 on: September 16, 2018, 03:45:21 PM »
All atoms were formed in a very mechanical way...the same process, over and over again, and their superb electrical patterns the backdrop behind the 'periodic table'. This tells us that wild forces don't make atoms, but rather a course of events that can be scientifically described. That description defines a part-atom as the force that came together on this planet to form life, in all its manifestations. The sun being a terrific force with only marginal scientific understanding is the only and ideal candidate to explain all this phenomena...got to go...dinner time.
Nope.
Sorry Nick but this is just not acceptable either accurately or especially scientifically.
What you described was just waffle, with syrup on.
Common sense tells us that Nick.

The days of proclaiming yourself a scientist Nick, are well and truely up.
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« Reply #493 on: September 16, 2018, 04:53:19 PM »
All atoms were formed in a very mechanical way...the same process, over and over again, and their superb electrical patterns the backdrop behind the 'periodic table'. This tells us that wild forces don't make atoms, but rather a course of events that can be scientifically described. That description defines a part-atom as the force that came together on this planet to form life, in all its manifestations. The sun being a terrific force with only marginal scientific understanding is the only and ideal candidate to explain all this phenomena...got to go...dinner time.

Stanley Unwin!

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« Reply #494 on: September 16, 2018, 06:31:12 PM »
Stanley Unwin!
I would plump for Bill and Ben myself!
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« Reply #495 on: September 16, 2018, 06:32:14 PM »
Stanley Unwin? More like Stanley Laurel.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #496 on: September 16, 2018, 06:57:56 PM »

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« Reply #497 on: September 16, 2018, 07:27:59 PM »
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #498 on: September 17, 2018, 06:23:02 AM »

A star doesn't work in isolation...it works along with many other stars, all apparently swirling around a black-hole and these all give us clues to how all the atoms and in particular, the part-atoms were born...You see...if we roll out all the energy contained within the Milky Way into its purest form we would still have a huge dense cloud, of light-year proportions, which consisted of one property and one property alone...a material that is mass-less until, that is, it is spun-up into a swirling field of dynamic energy, travelling at the speed of the expanding universe...and then we get science...a way of explaining everything that happened before hand and everything that has happened since...and it's greatest clues, like it or lump it, are all revealed through the Holy Bible. 

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« Reply #499 on: September 17, 2018, 06:32:45 AM »
A star doesn't work in isolation...it works along with many other stars, all apparently swirling around a black-hole and these all give us clues to how all the atoms and in particular, the part-atoms were born...You see...if we roll out all the energy contained within the Milky Way into its purest form we would still have a huge dense cloud, of light-year proportions, which consisted of one property and one property alone...a material that is mass-less until, that is, it is spun-up into a swirling field of dynamic energy, travelling at the speed of the expanding universe...and then we get science...a way of explaining everything that happened before hand and everything that has happened since...and it's greatest clues, like it or lump it, are all revealed through the Holy Bible.

The Bible says none of that.  Bible authors knew nothing of black holes or cosmic inflation or galaxies.  The sky is referred to as a 'firmament', heavens fixed above a flat Earth.  There is no evidence that any of these people, Jesus included, understood that the stars were enormous nuclear furnaces or that the sky continued underneath the Earth.