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Roses

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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2018, 12:26:34 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on November 13, 2018, 12:20:12 PM
Are you calling for a ban on cars and planes? Woodburning stoves?

I believe electric cars are to replace petrol and diesel vehicles by 2030, I think it is, and electric planes are being developed. I wouldn't regret the demise of wood burning stoves.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2018, 12:27:57 PM »
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I stopped smoking when I was 18 so in a sense I don't really give a toss. But I have friends who smoke and I have dated someone who smokes. Not even being able to stand outside a pub having a smoke or to slip outside in the night for a puff when staying in a hotel would not only have a severe impact on their ability to socialise, but also on mine.

An old one:

A: Do you smoke after sex?

B: I don't know - I've never looked!

(Boom-tish, I'm here all week folks etc).
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2018, 12:28:48 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 13, 2018, 12:26:34 PM
I believe electric cars are to replace petrol and diesel vehicles by 2030, I think it is, and electric planes are being developed. I wouldn't regret the demise of wood burning stoves.
But you are still happy to harm people by using cars and planes?
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2018, 12:34:58 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on November 13, 2018, 12:28:48 PM
But you are still happy to harm people by using cars and planes?

Electric tractors? HGV vehicles? Presumably LR doesn't buy food that gets moved around by road. Or plane. And in the meantime...

Oh, she wants me to get rid of my stove.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2018, 12:35:21 PM »
Quote from: bluehillside Retd. on November 13, 2018, 12:27:57 PM
Rhi,

An old one:

A: Do you smoke after sex?

B: I don't know - I've never looked!

(Boom-tish, I'm here all week folks etc).

I'm coming over all Fenella Fielding.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2018, 12:36:33 PM »
Rhi,

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I'm coming over all Fenella Fielding.

Pardon?
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2018, 12:37:49 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 13, 2018, 09:24:26 AM
Smoking should be banned in ALL public places in my opinion.
A typically extreme, crude, ill-thought-out opinion from the queen of them.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2018, 12:38:32 PM »
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2018, 12:39:02 PM »
Rhi,

PS Carry on Screaming era Fenella Fielding is very much the mental image I have of you by the way...
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2018, 12:41:08 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on November 13, 2018, 12:37:49 PM
A typically extreme, crude, ill-thought-out opinion from the queen of them.


As you are a smoker one would expect you to be biased against any measures to curb the habit. ::)
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2018, 12:41:36 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 13, 2018, 12:26:34 PM
I believe electric cars are to replace petrol and diesel vehicles by 2030, I think it is, and electric planes are being developed. I wouldn't regret the demise of wood burning stoves.
Elecrtric cars still cause congestion and kill people, and they only move pollution back a stage, since the electricity used to recharge them comes from polluting power stations.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2018, 12:41:47 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 13, 2018, 12:41:08 PM

As you are a smoker one would expect you to be biased against any measures to curb the habit. ::)

I'm not. I agree with him.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2018, 12:43:22 PM »
Quote from: bluehillside Retd. on November 13, 2018, 12:39:02 PM
Rhi,

PS Carry on Screaming era Fenella Fielding is very much the mental image I have of you by the way...

How did you know? Is it that obvious?
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2018, 12:43:46 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 13, 2018, 12:41:08 PM

As you are a smoker one would expect you to be biased against any measures to curb the habit. ::)
I'm not, actually. I think it should be very restricted in puiblic, but banning it out of doors is ridiculous.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2018, 12:44:24 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on November 13, 2018, 12:43:46 PM
I'm not, actually. I think it should be very restricted in puiblic, but banning it out of doors is ridiculous.

It's about balance, isn't it?
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2018, 12:45:59 PM »
LR,

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As you are a smoker one would expect you to be biased against any measures to curb the habit. ::)

That's not fair. The argument is to curb it when it adversely affects others (passive smoking), not to curb it across the piece.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2018, 12:46:28 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on November 13, 2018, 12:41:47 PM
I'm not. I agree with him.
Ditto. (and just to note the idea that someone's opinion should be disregarded because they do x, is an ad hominem fallacy)
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2018, 12:47:21 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on November 13, 2018, 12:44:24 PM
It's about balance, isn't it?

Do you permit people to smoke in your home when your children are there?
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2018, 12:47:28 PM »
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It's about balance, isn't it?
Indeed. I wonder if LR also wants to ban unhealthy food, cars, and dangerous sports.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2018, 12:47:43 PM »
Rhi,

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How did you know? Is it that obvious?

No, it's just a gift I have...
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2018, 12:49:28 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on November 13, 2018, 12:47:28 PM
Indeed. I wonder if LR also wants to ban unhealthy food, cars, and dangerous sports.

What a good idea. I would ban boxing for sure, and no doubt others if they come to mind.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2018, 12:49:35 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 13, 2018, 12:47:21 PM
Do you permit people to smoke in your home when your children are there?
What the hell has that got to do with legal restrictions in public places?
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2018, 12:51:11 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on November 13, 2018, 12:49:28 PM
What a good idea. I would ban boxing for sure, and no doubt others if they come to mind.
Gymnastics? People break their necks doing that.
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2018, 12:52:44 PM »
How about banning stupid people expressing their opinions?
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Re: Smoking and anti-smoking
« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2018, 12:53:39 PM »
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Gymnastics? People break their necks doing that.

Rugby.
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