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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #125 on: June 24, 2020, 04:08:16 PM »
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Trump is the most corrupt president in US history. >:(
I don't know if that is literally true. There have been some pretty corrupt presidents in the past (flower girl would probably have a better idea than me on that) but I think he is more corrupt than Nixon by a wide margin.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #126 on: June 24, 2020, 04:09:04 PM »
Ladies and Gentlemen of the R & E Forum could we please have your votes for the U S Presidential election

Owlswing - Biden

Result so far = BIDEN - 1 / TRUMP - 0

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #127 on: June 24, 2020, 04:38:31 PM »
I plead the Vth.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #128 on: June 24, 2020, 04:40:19 PM »
Biden
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #129 on: June 24, 2020, 06:00:50 PM »
Biden

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #130 on: June 24, 2020, 07:40:07 PM »
Biden / (and praying he picks Kamala Harris as his VP)
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #131 on: June 24, 2020, 10:11:19 PM »
Biden
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #132 on: June 24, 2020, 10:27:55 PM »
Holding my nose, Biden - though I think it's a disgusting choice
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #133 on: June 25, 2020, 12:16:09 AM »
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Holding my nose, Biden - though I think it's a disgusting choice

I've posted this exact thing many times.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #134 on: June 25, 2020, 08:35:09 AM »
If a baboon was standing against Trump I would vote for it. ;D
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #135 on: June 25, 2020, 08:37:43 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on June 25, 2020, 08:35:09 AM
If a baboon was standing against Trump I would vote for it. ;D
It would get my vote against Biden as well
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #136 on: June 25, 2020, 08:49:36 AM »
I just realised I misread the question. I thought it was asking for predictions, not who you would vote for. I will therefore revise my answer:

Biden, even though he is a poor candidate (although not disgusting). I'd rather have had any of the other candidates except Bernie Sanders (who is, like Biden, too old and too far to the left to be sure of beating Trump).
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #137 on: June 25, 2020, 09:02:46 AM »
I agree Biden isn't much good, but the way things are in the US at present, nobody could be worse than Trump. >:(
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« Reply #138 on: June 25, 2020, 07:13:00 PM »
My hope is on his VP pick.  On Twitter, I suggested my preference of Kamala Harris, but a few replied that she would much better serve America as either the AG (anyone will be better than Barr!) or in the senate.  I'm torn, as they are good points.  Another candidate being vetted is our own (Orlando, FL) Val Demmings who was Orange County Sheriff at one time.  Her husband is now the mayor.  The press beat her up quite a bit, so I worry she will be targeted in the way Obama and Hillary were.  But, I admired very much the role she played in the House Impeachment hearings. 
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #139 on: June 25, 2020, 08:38:07 PM »
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My hope is on his VP pick.  On Twitter, I suggested my preference of Kamala Harris, but a few replied that she would much better serve America as either the AG (anyone will be better than Barr!) or in the senate.  I'm torn, as they are good points.  Another candidate being vetted is our own (Orlando, FL) Val Demmings who was Orange County Sheriff at one time.  Her husband is now the mayor.  The press beat her up quite a bit, so I worry she will be targeted in the way Obama and Hillary were.  But, I admired very much the role she played in the House Impeachment hearings.

I saw a Samantha Bee segment on Youtube last year in which she bemoaned the number of candidates to be the Democratic nominee for president and made a good argument that many of them should, instead, be trying to get into the Senate. We've seen what happens when a president has to deal with a hostile Senate. Obama couldn't even get his nominee for the supreme court confirmed thanks to action by the GOP controlled senate that I consider to be almost criminal. If Biden wins, it probably won't make a huge difference unless the Dems control both houses.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #140 on: June 25, 2020, 10:11:30 PM »
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I saw a Samantha Bee segment on Youtube last year in which she bemoaned the number of candidates to be the Democratic nominee for president and made a good argument that many of them should, instead, be trying to get into the Senate. We've seen what happens when a president has to deal with a hostile Senate. Obama couldn't even get his nominee for the supreme court confirmed thanks to action by the GOP controlled senate that I consider to be almost criminal. If Biden wins, it probably won't make a huge difference unless the Dems control both houses.

Yes, this is key.  It does seem as if the average American is catching on, as bit by bit the GOP in the Senate are becoming targets.  (Sadly, Kentucky closed down 95% of the voting stations during last week's primary election.  I worry this portends things to come as there is a candidate who is gaining popularity who will unseat Mitch McConnell if the people are allowed to vote.)
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #141 on: June 26, 2020, 09:31:59 AM »
Quote from: flower girl on June 25, 2020, 10:11:30 PM

Yes, this is key.  It does seem as if the average American is catching on, as bit by bit the GOP in the Senate are becoming targets.  (Sadly, Kentucky closed down 95% of the voting stations during last week's primary election.  I worry this portends things to come as there is a candidate who is gaining popularity who will unseat Mitch McConnell if the people are allowed to vote.)


A neat description of Democracy as it is practised in the U S !
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #142 on: June 26, 2020, 12:23:59 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on June 24, 2020, 04:09:04 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen of the R & E Forum could we please have your votes for the U S Presidential election

Owlswing - Biden

Result so far = BIDEN - 1 / TRUMP - 0

"OVER TO YOU BOYS and GIRLS"
Biden, unenthusiastically. If I had a vote, and was voting according to my real beliefs, I'd vote for the Green candidate if there is one, but Biden's the only Trump alternative with any chance. Both the UK and the US need to ditch FPTP voting. For MPs and Senators, t should be single transferable vote, and for Presidents, alternative vote.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #143 on: June 26, 2020, 05:08:16 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on June 26, 2020, 09:31:59 AM
A neat description of Democracy as it is practised in the U S !

They used COVID19 as the excuse, but this is unprecedented (at least the magnitude is.) 

The legall way to skew voting results is gerrymandering, where one political party redraws district lines, which tends to favor one party over the other. The GOP redraw lines to minimize the number of people who can vote (esp from poor and black districts.)  The Democrats include them back in. The GOP are very good at convincing the American majority that only the Democrats are abusing gerrymandering and in doing so destroying our Democracy.  *sigh*
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #144 on: June 29, 2020, 01:38:55 PM »
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #145 on: June 29, 2020, 01:42:57 PM »
It would be very good news if it came to fruition.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #146 on: June 29, 2020, 03:00:53 PM »
Quote from: Constable Dogberry on June 29, 2020, 01:38:55 PM
Good news!

There's no doubt Trump's popularity is waning.  His tweets are getting fewer likes too.  It will be interesting to see if this latest scandal breaking in the news about Russia paying the Taliban to kill US soldiers hurts him or not.  If not, then that would be one indicator that he still has some hope for turning the American public around. 
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #147 on: July 05, 2020, 09:31:18 AM »
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« Reply #148 on: July 06, 2020, 12:51:32 PM »
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #149 on: July 06, 2020, 07:05:31 PM »
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