US Election 2020

[Owlswing]

Trump really is a nasty piece of work.

I really wonder if it is only residents of the US of A who cannot see that this is a fact and not an anti-Trump conspiracy!

I really do not want to believe that the majority of American voters are not aware of just how corrupt, morally, if, in no other way, Trump and his coterie are.

I also wonder just what has to happen before the pro-Trump blinkers are removed from their eyes and I despair at the kind of damage his re-election might inflict on every other country in the world, especially any the Government of which has the 'nads to publicly criticise the creep!
 

[jeremyp]

I really do not want to believe that the majority of American voters are not aware of just how corrupt, morally, if, in no other way, Trump and his coterie are.

The majority of Americans are aware of that. Nt only did he not get a majority of the votes in the last election, he didn't even get the most votes of any candidate.

I also wonder just what has to happen before the pro-Trump blinkers are removed from their eyes

If he loses in November, I'm pretty sure Trump supporters will become much rarer. Whatever magic spell he has over them will be broken by no longer being a winner.

[Robbie]

Owl:-
I really do not want to believe that the majority of American voters are not aware of just how corrupt, morally, if, in no other way, Trump and his coterie are.
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They think he is on their side because of his support for some issues e.g. immigration & abortion and so turn a blind eye to other stuff. I don't think that can last forever (hope not), but he talks their langauage at the moment.

[Roses]

It is more a case of a lot of Americans don't care how corrupt Trump is as long as he is supporting their causes.

[Nearly Sane]

What to look out for at the Dems Convention -I know you will all be glued to it


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53585506

[Nearly Sane]

Why Trump is likely to win again!

https://medium.com/@wiredgourmet/why-trump-is-likely-to-win-again-23e56ccff95b

[jeremyp]

Why Trump is likely to win again!

https://medium.com/@wiredgourmet/why-trump-is-likely-to-win-again-23e56ccff95b

That's a good analysis of why he won in 2016, but things have changed since then. Four years of Trump hasn't made the lives of blue collar workers in swing states any better. Some of them at least should realise that.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure Trump will win, because of the voter suppression that's going on.

[Nearly Sane]

That's a good analysis of why he won in 2016, but things have changed since then. Four years of Trump hasn't made the lives of blue collar workers in swing states any better. Some of them at least should realise that.

Having sid the, I'm pretty sure Trump will win, because of the voter suppression that's going on.

I think they will just see it as needing more time to drain the swamp - Biden isn't going to win them over.

As for the voter suppression, I fear you are correct

[jeremyp]

I think they will just see it as needing more time to drain the swamp - Biden isn't going to win them over.

Fortunately, they don't vote as a bloc. Some of them will still be Trump supporters still. Some will have realised he is a lying orange toad.

Whether enough have seen the light remains to be seen.

[Nearly Sane]

Fortunately, they don't vote as a bloc. Some of them will still be Trump supporters still. Some will have realised he is a lying orange toad.

Whether enough have seen the light remains to be seen.

Oddly enough, the very rise of tech stocks will give Trump a boost


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53745009

[jeremyp]

Oddly enough, the very rise of tech stocks will give Trump a boost


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53745009

I have to say that is bizarre in the current economic circumstances. But you are right. Trump has convinced his supporters that the stock market is the economy.

[Nearly Sane]

I have to say that is bizarre in the current economic circumstances. But you are right. Trump has convinced his supporters that the stock market is the economy.

Yeah, I'm not getting it either- I can see why the tech stocks would be doing well but the rest of it should be tanking

[Nearly Sane]

Not the most inspiring speech from Biden but one that did the job

[Harrowby Hall]

I have to say that is bizarre in the current economic circumstances. But you are right. Trump has convinced his supporters that the stock market is the economy.

I suppose that in the third-world states, whose support he requires in the Electoral College, both concepts are so remote from everyday life that it doesn't matter that they are not the same thing.

[Nearly Sane]

It's a pity the Carter Center don't actually monitor the US election



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/carter-center-us-election-2020-donald-trump-democracy-a9683011.html

[Nearly Sane]

Don't like this narrowing


https://www.bonus.com/election/

[Owlswing]

Don't like this narrowing

https://www.bonus.com/election/

 

Is there a sane person in the world who does?

[Nearly Sane]

 

Is there a sane person in the world who does?

  Millions.

[Aruntraveller]

  Millions.

Surely that would depend on your definition of sane. And it could be they might be almost sane.

[jeremyp]

I'm pretty sure now that Trump is going to win in November. I think it is closer than the polls say (Biden by about 8 points) and the shortfall will be made up with voter suppression.

It's too depressing for words.

[Roses]

Another 4 years of Trump would be one's worst nightmare come true.

[Nearly Sane]

Surely that would depend on your definition of sane. And it could be they might be almost sane.

I just don't think that you can dismiss all of those voting for Trump as insane. We're back at the lazy othering of Brexiteers as racists, or those for or against Scottish independence, depending on your side, as traitors.


Also as my nom de plume implies, I am not sanity's biggest fan. I think Putin is extremely sane.

[Nearly Sane]

Another 4 years of Trump would be one's worst nightmare come true.

Your nightmares must be quite mild compared to mine.

[jeremyp]

Your nightmares must be quite mild compared to mine.

You do know it's a figure of speech, don't you?

[Roses]

Your nightmares must be quite mild compared to mine.

I don't know what can be more horrifying than a bloke with severe mental health problems, as seems to be the case with Trump, with nuclear weapons at his disposal!