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Re: Football 2019 - 2020
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2019, 03:17:55 PM »
If you enjoy footie, try to get a glimpse of De Bruyne at the moment.  There are some bits on Match of the Day on iplayer.  He is playing out of his skin, and also looks in a controlled rage.  No idea what that's about.  I've been watching footables for 60 years, and this is the cream.  Whether he can sustain it, dunno.
Was watching him this morning thinking that he reminded me a lot of Martin Peters. Every time he gets the ball it looks like a goal is possible.

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« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2019, 03:42:00 PM »
He usually plays very well, but right now he is out of sight, Cruyff-like.  I'm curious if he can sustain it.
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Re: Football 2019 - 2020
« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2019, 03:51:53 PM »
Given most teams will be trying to mark him in particular, he seems to find so much space.

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« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2019, 02:20:13 PM »
Another AFTV meltdown. If anyone here hasn't ever seen it go to YouTube. Funny as hell! Toxic. No wonder Arsenal fans are starting to turn against them.0

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Re: Football 2019 - 2020
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2019, 11:37:15 AM »
And Pellegrini gone
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« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2019, 12:38:19 PM »
And Pellegrini gone

Should have done it over a month ago.

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« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2020, 07:02:35 PM »
Should have done it over a month ago.

That's a bit of a bounce

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« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2020, 01:32:27 PM »
That's a bit of a bounce

Yeah. Yes Bournemouth are bang out of form but so were we going unto this game. Lots of positives to take from that game. Need to keep on going but we already look like we have more purpose about us.

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« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2020, 04:48:17 PM »
VAR has killed football. RIP!

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« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2020, 07:24:55 AM »
Saturday's game against Everton should be interesting. A protest has been planned for before the game by Hammers United. You can sense a storm is brewing, just like before the Burnley game a couple of seasons ago.

There are a couple of other West Ham fans here I think? Please join Hammers United. It doesn't cost anything.

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« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2020, 08:43:36 AM »
Just dropping in to ask: why is Wayne Rooney playing football for Derby? It can't be that he is short of money, can it?!!  What has he beendoing in recent years?

No, I'm not particularly interested :) but have heard him referred to on Five Live recently and well, you know that saying, curiosity killed the cat!
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« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2020, 09:47:03 AM »
Just dropping in to ask: why is Wayne Rooney playing football for Derby? It can't be that he is short of money, can it?!!  What has he beendoing in recent years?

No, I'm not particularly interested :) but have heard him referred to on Five Live recently and well, you know that saying, curiosity killed the cat!

I think it is his first step towards moving into management. I believe his current position is Player/Coach as well as being Captain.

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« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2020, 10:39:16 AM »
I think it is his first step towards moving into management. I believe his current position is Player/Coach as well as being Captain.
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Re: Football 2019 - 2020
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2020, 07:46:40 PM »
Ticket, flights and hotel sorted for West Ham v Southampton on the 29th. Second game of the season for me. Big protest against the owners before the game, of which I will be a part. #GSBOUT!

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« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2020, 10:08:06 PM »
West Ham really gave their all tonight but Liverpool are just unstoppable. 79 points out of a possible 81 this season is just bonkers. Tonight they matched the record of consecutive wins in the top flight, a record they can beat at Watford on Saturday. As a current Watford fan and childhood Liverpool fan I'm a tad conflicted. Best result would be Liverpool win but Watford still avoid the drop!

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« Reply #65 on: February 25, 2020, 05:33:49 AM »
Typical West Ham. Show the most fight they have all season then arguably our best player this and last season gifts our opponents the win. Still, if we show the same fight for the rest of the season there's hope we can avoid the drop.
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Re: Football 2019 - 2020
« Reply #66 on: February 29, 2020, 06:07:52 PM »
Big win for West Ham

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« Reply #67 on: February 29, 2020, 08:08:40 PM »
Caught the second half of Watford - Liverpool this evening.

I'm kind of pleased that, yet again, the dominant team of a season has failed to match the Arsenal Invincibles. It puts into perspective exactly howe astonishing that achievement really was.
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« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2020, 04:08:28 PM »
Caught the second half of Watford - Liverpool this evening.

I'm kind of pleased that, yet again, the dominant team of a season has failed to match the Arsenal Invincibles. It puts into perspective exactly howe astonishing that achievement really was.
Not quite the result I was expecting yesterday!! Great for Watford's chances of escaping the drop.

On the Arsenal invincibles - yup their incredible record isn't going to be matched this year. But while Arsenal went the whole season unbeaten and nothing can take that away from them, their overall record that season in terms of games won and total points isn't the best as they had a lot of draws (although obviously no defeats). So Liverpool with 10 games to go have won as many games this season as Arsenal won all that season. And currently Liverpool have dropped just 5 points all season - at the same stage in their invincibles season Arsenal had dropped 14 points.

So Arsenal's achievement may be remarkable in terms of lack of defeats, but really the best season currently has to be Manchester City's 100 points in 17/18 (a full 10 points more than Arsenal in their undefeated season) - which Liverpool might yet match or beat.

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« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2020, 05:59:38 PM »
Not quite the result I was expecting yesterday!! Great for Watford's chances of escaping the drop.

On the Arsenal invincibles - yup their incredible record isn't going to be matched this year. But while Arsenal went the whole season unbeaten and nothing can take that away from them, their overall record that season in terms of games won and total points isn't the best as they had a lot of draws (although obviously no defeats). So Liverpool with 10 games to go have won as many games this season as Arsenal won all that season. And currently Liverpool have dropped just 5 points all season - at the same stage in their invincibles season Arsenal had dropped 14 points.

So Arsenal's achievement may be remarkable in terms of lack of defeats, but really the best season currently has to be Manchester City's 100 points in 17/18 (a full 10 points more than Arsenal in their undefeated season) - which Liverpool might yet match or beat.

That all just makes it more astonishing. Arsenal achieved their unbeaten season in a year when the chasing pack was much closer to the eventual winner than this year.

More or Less did a statistical analysis of Liverpool's performances this year based on performances by individual players. They found that the current situation is pretty improbable and "on average" Manchester City should be much closer than they are, but things have just gone Liverpool's way. I suspect that things went Arsenal's way to an even higher degree in the Invincibles year.
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Re: Football 2019 - 2020
« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2020, 06:47:36 PM »
That all just makes it more astonishing. Arsenal achieved their unbeaten season in a year when the chasing pack was much closer to the eventual winner than this year.
Not sure I agree with that - if you are being pushed you have to keep winning (or rather not losing) if you are miles ahead I'm sure it is pretty difficult to keep that momentum going when you've got plenty of elbow room to lose or draw a couple without being drawn back into a scrap. Just look at last season's astonishing run in with Man City on 98 its just pipping Liverpool on 97. But the key thing is that both just kept winning - Man City won their last 14 games, Liverpool their last 9.

More or Less did a statistical analysis of Liverpool's performances this year based on performances by individual players. They found that the current situation is pretty improbable and "on average" Manchester City should be much closer than they are, but things have just gone Liverpool's way. I suspect that things went Arsenal's way to an even higher degree in the Invincibles year.
I think there is always an element of luck in these matters - luck, in your favour, is what turns a good season into a great one, and conversely turns an OK one into a terrible one.

And although Arsenal's undefeated season is incredible in a symbolic manner, being undefeated is no guarantee of success - indeed, theoretically a team could go unbeaten all season draw all 38 games and be relegated on 38 points.

So for the sake of arguments lets assume Liverpool win their last 10 games to finish on 109 points from a possible 114 with a record of 36 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss. While they'd not have the 'unbeaten' symbolism of Arsenal could you really argue that Arsenal's record of 90 points from 26 wins, 12 draws, 0 losses is actually better. Personally I don't think so.
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« Reply #71 on: March 03, 2020, 11:01:53 AM »
Big win for West Ham

Was at the game and the protest before. We were in good voice both outside and inside the stadium. We now have a template for the rest of the season. Still going to be tight but if we carry on like that we have a fighting chance.

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« Reply #72 on: March 03, 2020, 11:27:56 AM »
Was at the game and the protest before. We were in good voice both outside and inside the stadium. We now have a template for the rest of the season. Still going to be tight but if we carry on like that we have a fighting chance.
The wins for West Ham and Watford must have been a bit sickening for Norwich after their unexpected victory got them closer to the teams above.

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« Reply #73 on: March 03, 2020, 11:58:21 AM »
The wins for West Ham and Watford must have been a bit sickening for Norwich after their unexpected victory got them closer to the teams above.
True - but Norwich look doomed.

I think Aston Villa and Bournemouth were most affected by Watford and West Ham's great results at the weekend, even though neither lost (in the league) and Aston Villa didn't even play. Points on the table are always better than games in hand when you're near the bottom.

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« Reply #74 on: March 03, 2020, 03:03:20 PM »
True - but Norwich look doomed.

I think Aston Villa and Bournemouth were most affected by Watford and West Ham's great results at the weekend, even though neither lost (in the league) and Aston Villa didn't even play. Points on the table are always better than games in hand when you're near the bottom.
Yes, Villa in particular who by not playing will feel they have lost a chance. I think with Bournemouth while it might feel that the point they got against Chelsea was quite as valuable will feel that it was still a point gained.