It's mawkish bollocks day on Facebook.

[Steve H]

   


Nor has it been expunged.

It's never sung or printed in full, which sounds like expunging the racist bits to me.

[Enki]

    Yet shouldn't we make redress for a hurt which has consequences for generations born long after that hurt was inflicted?

Who's 'we'  and what sort of redress do you mean ?

[jeremyp]

It's never sung or printed in full, which sounds like expunging the racist bits to me.

How could it be expunged if it was never there in the first place? You can't expunge a verse from the National Anthem it isn't in the National Anthem.

[Steve H]

I think the verse referred to was the one about confounding their knavish tricks.

[jeremyp]

I think the verse referred to was the one about confounding their knavish tricks.

This one:

O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall:
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all.

I certainly think it needs to be expunged, but only because of trying to rhyme "arise" and "enemies".

[Nearly Sane]

I think the verse referred to was the one about confounding their knavish tricks.

Anchorman was talking about this one

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
 May by thy mighty aid,
 Victory bring.
 May he sedition hush,
 and like a torrent rush,
 Rebellious Scots to crush,
 God save the King.

[ProfessorDavey]

As an atheist and a republican the national anthem is remarkable in alienating me as a citizen in two fundamental way in the first five words and I imagine I'm not alone in that.

The UK national anthem seems anomalous amongst examples from most other countries in focusing neither on the country in question, nor its people.

[Walter]

As an atheist and a republican the national anthem is remarkable in alienating me as a citizen in two fundamental way in the first five words and I imagine I'm not alone in that.

The UK national anthem seems anomalous amongst examples from most other countries in focusing neither on the country in question, nor its people.

hi prof
I remember getting into bother at school because I would not sing those first 5 words
Detention followed !

[Walter]

Btw , Catholic  kids didn't come into assemblies but were made to wait in an adjoining room

Until we finished , I know one of em just pretended 😂

[Steve H]

Anchorman was talking about this one

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
 May by thy mighty aid,
 Victory bring.
 May he sedition hush,
 and like a torrent rush,
 Rebellious Scots to crush,
 God save the King.

We couldn't have used that one since 1952 anyway, because "bring" doesn't rhyme with "Queen", quite apart from the fact that ii refers to the Jacobite rising of 1715.