Living past 100...

[Sriram]

It's more care about your welfare Sriram, not so much that we're tizzing about.

You seem to have this impulse to pull against logical and the reasoned out way of thinking and apparently want to dive head first into the 'twilight zone' where all of the woo's thriving and evidential thinking is repulsed out of the picture at all costs.

It's just such a shame to see an otherwise, on the whole, intelligent good forum friend going away down to this illogical dead end.

So in effect you could look on our responses as though we're trying to save you.

Regards and a happy Newton's day, ippy.

Thanks for your kind words, ippy. 

[Sriram]

Sririam:-  "Had enough....no more of the same needs/desires surfacing again and again endlessly'.....is what I consider as fulfilling."

I totally get that sririam, felt something like it (by whichI mean not exactly), myself most of this year.

This is an interesting thread; I don't want to live past 100 but I would like to be a bit more lively right now and for next few years while I'm still fit and well. I've lost interest in many things & gone quiet' (my sis described me as having gone quiet cheeky woman).

Regardless of whether or not a person believes in an afterlife it's alwasy been my view that we should make the most of this life and the wonderful world, with all its flaws, in which we live.

Robbie

I am glad at least someone gets what I am saying...!   

I am of the view that satisfying our needs and desires is not fulfillment. That is an endless effort.  Having no needs and desires or minimizing them, is what leads to fulfillment.

I agree that living a full life and being happy on a day to day basis is more important than living long. 

 

[Walter]

" one life -live it"

That's all there is to say !

[ippy]

Robbie

I am glad at least someone gets what I am saying...!   

I am of the view that satisfying our needs and desires is not fulfilment. That is an endless effort.  Having no needs and desires or minimising them, is what leads to fulfilment.

I agree that living a full life and being happy on a day to day basis is more important than living long.

So much for having the desire to do good?

In my case I would like to think I've contributed to making the world a little bit of a better place than it was when I entered, hopefully due to my efforts over the few years I've managed to spend here.

Regards, ippy.

[Walter]

So much for having the desire to do good?

In my case I would like to think I've contributed to making the world a little bit of a better place than it was when I entered, hopefully due to my efforts over the few years I've managed to spend here.

Regards, ippy.

thank you , St ippy 😇

[Robbie]

I don't get you ippy. You say:- So much for having the desire to do good?

Living a happy (as far as possible, no one is happy all the time), fulfilling life includes doing good, I doubt many of us would be happy and fulfilled if we were mean spirited & cared nothing about others, social issues etc. If we take care of ourselves we are better equipped to care for other people. Does that make sense to everyone else? It has little to do with belief in an afterlife.

[Roses]

I don't get you ippy. You say:- So much for having the desire to do good?

Living a happy (as far as possible, no one is happy all the time), fulfilling life includes doing good, I doubt many of us would be happy and fulfilled if we were mean spirited & cared nothing about others, social issues etc. If we take care of ourselves we are better equipped to care for other people. Does that make sense to everyone else? It has little to do with belief in an afterlife.

It certainly makes sense to me. I am far from being any kind of saint, that is for sure, but I do get satisfaction from helping others when I can.

[Sriram]

So much for having the desire to do good?

In my case I would like to think I've contributed to making the world a little bit of a better place than it was when I entered, hopefully due to my efforts over the few years I've managed to spend here.

Regards, ippy.

There is a somewhat subtle issue here. Needs and desires are natural...including the desire to help and be a useful member of society.  There is however a hierarchy of needs and desires.

During spiritual practice we try to eliminate that part which is selfish and increase that part which is selfless.  But after a point of time we realize that life is largely destiny and predetermined.  The desire to help itself becomes an obstacle....not very different from other desires.   

So, the ego attached to helping others needs to get eliminated.  Helping becomes spontaneous, not a desire anymore.

That is when fulfillment is reached.

[ippy]

thank you , St ippy 😇

I'm not looking for Sainthood but if you insist Walter

[ippy]

I don't get you ippy. You say:- So much for having the desire to do good?

Living a happy (as far as possible, no one is happy all the time), fulfilling life includes doing good, I doubt many of us would be happy and fulfilled if we were mean spirited & cared nothing about others, social issues etc. If we take care of ourselves we are better equipped to care for other people. Does that make sense to everyone else? It has little to do with belief in an afterlife.

Robbie,

Can't say I think I've written anything that outrageous, or even anything giving a hint I might be considered to be one of those obnoxious holier than thou brigade members.

Do you mean people in general can't have kindly thoughts toward their fellow persons unless the individuals happen to be a religioso based type person?

ippy.

[ippy]

There is a somewhat subtle issue here. Needs and desires are natural...including the desire to help and be a useful member of society.  There is however a hierarchy of needs and desires.

During spiritual practice we try to eliminate that part which is selfish and increase that part which is selfless.  But after a point of time we realize that life is largely destiny and predetermined.  The desire to help itself becomes an obstacle....not very different from other desires.   

So, the ego attached to helping others needs to get eliminated.  Helping becomes spontaneous, not a desire anymore.

That is when fulfillment is reached.

Look up ' Medecins Sans Frontieres' Sriram, helping people anywhere in the world without the expectation of gaining any sort of heavenly 'Brownie Points', it justifiably could hold up a two finger salute to any faith based charity you may wish to mention and it fits your remit, like a glove.

Regards, ippy.

 

[Roses]

Look up ' Medecins Sans Frontieres' Sriram, helping people anywhere in the world without the expectation of gaining any sort of heavenly 'Brownie Points', it justifiably could hold up a two finger salute to any faith based charity you may wish to mention and it fits your remit, like a glove.

Regards, ippy.

Medicines sans frontiers is one of a number of charities we support, they do a good job.

Btw I suggest St Ippy's day is January 31st, you being the patron saint of Brexit.

[ippy]

Medicines sans frontiers is one of a number of charities we support, they do a good job.

Btw I suggest St Ippy's day is January 31st, you being the patron saint of Brexit.

Trying my hardest to not burst about the result, shhh.

Regards L R, ippy.

[Roses]

Trying my hardest to not burst about the result, shhh.

Regards L R, ippy.

I realise you must having been skipping around with glee, but will give you credit where credit is due in that regard.

[Robbie]

Ippy i never had you figured as someone who didn't read people's posts; I said:-
"It has little to do with belief in an afterlife." and I meant that, there are many I've known who would put me to shame and often I do not know what people believe or not. Everybody can access their social conscience, compassion, empathy.

Anyway not to worry, ippy. I don't want to go off at a tangent so let's leave it there except for what LR said:-

It certainly makes sense to me. I am far from being any kind of saint, that is for sure, but I do get satisfaction from helping others when I can.

[ippy]

Ippy i never had you figured as someone who didn't read people's posts; I said:-
"It has little to do with belief in an afterlife." and I meant that, there are many I've known who would put me to shame and often I do not know what people believe or not. Everybody can access their social conscience, compassion, empathy.

Anyway not to worry, ippy. I don't want to go off at a tangent so let's leave it there except for what LR said:-

I put my point, 'by posing the question', about what is was that you were meaning, a little different to nailing your words down on all four corners.

You need to be a lot more careful when you're writing any reply to me in the future Robbie, I've been put forward for beatification, so there! Get out of that one!   

Best regards, ippy.

[Roses]

I put my point, 'by posing the question', about what is was that you were meaning, a little different to nailing your words down on all four corners.

You need to be a lot more careful when you're writing any reply to me in the future Robbie, I've been put forward for beatification, so there! Get out of that one!   

Best regards, ippy.

 

[Robbie]

Ippy, canonisation looms! :-), what a magnificent explosion celebration that will be!

[Harrowby Hall]

I put my point, 'by posing the question', about what is was that you were meaning, a little different to nailing your words down on all four corners.

You need to be a lot more careful when you're writing any reply to me in the future Robbie, I've been put forward for beatification, so there!   

Right then. Perform a miracle:  turn Alexander B Johnson into a caring, considerate human being whose brain is not located in his glans penis. And if you want canonisation: make him become a true leader not someone who just follows populist opinion.

[ippy]

Right then. Perform a miracle:  turn Alexander B Johnson into a caring, considerate human being whose brain is not located in his glans penis. And if you want canonisation: make him become a true leader not someone who just follows populist opinion.

Let's assume everything you've put in this post of yours about Boris is correct, it still remains that he is very likely to complete the leave process and after that I doubt I'll be voting Conservative again.
 
You see even us Saints are not not seen as perfect to everyone, and next time you post to me you should be showing more reverence for my newfound position, if not, I might see it fit to cut quite a few of your future brownie points.

Regards, ippy.

[Roses]

Getting back to the subject of this thread, the actor June Spencer, who plays Peggy Woolley in 'The Archers', had her 100th earlier this year. It is good that she is still able to contribute to the longest running radio soap opera.

[Nearly Sane]

Getting back to the subject of this thread, the actor June Spencer, who plays Peggy Woolley in 'The Archers', had her 100th earlier this year. It is good that she is still able to contribute to the longest running radio soap opera.

The Archers is one reason I would not want to live beyond 100. It's a Dementor made into a radio programme in my opinion. The best thing about it is the music because it means it gives you enough time to switch it off.

[Roses]

The Archers is one reason I would not want to live beyond 100. It's a Dementor made into a radio programme in my opinion. The best thing about it is the music because it means it gives you enough time to switch it off.

Oh dear, dear! As I have said before, I have been listening to the programme since I was a year old and will continue to do so.

[Nearly Sane]

Getting back to the subject of this thread, the actor June Spencer, who plays Peggy Woolley in 'The Archers', had her 100th earlier this year. It is good that she is still able to contribute to the longest running radio soap opera.

And of course it's worth noting that Sheila Mercier - Annie Sugden died on Friday at the age of 100


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7790455/Emmerdale-actress-Sheila-Mercier-played-Annie-Sugden-dies-age-100.html

[Roses]

And of course it's worth noting that Sheila Mercier - Annie Sugden died on Friday at the age of 100


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7790455/Emmerdale-actress-Sheila-Mercier-played-Annie-Sugden-dies-age-100.html

Not a programme I bothered to watch.