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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2020, 09:57:57 AM »
My approach has led to highly active and contributed to threads on this forum just look at the stats so you can stuff yer missy humeian shite regarding the worth of my posts.
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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2020, 09:59:43 AM »
Pidge,

Your "approach" is to be the house troll. You're here to pollute, no to contribute.
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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2020, 11:06:24 AM »
No, you don't. To have something regarded  as 'evidence' for a supernatural claim
Do you realise that, when you examine it, the notion of the supernatural is actually incoherent? There's only things that exist and things that don't exist. Evidence helps us decide which bucket - exists or not exists - some concept more likely belongs to.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2020, 03:58:32 PM »
How do we rule out advanced aliens?

Because they contacted Earthlings?

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2020, 04:09:15 PM »
Do you realise that, when you examine it, the notion of the supernatural is actually incoherent? There's only things that exist and things that don't exist. Evidence helps us decide which bucket - exists or not exists - some concept more likely belongs to.
And since it is a supernatural claim for a supernatural entity which you believe is an incoherent concept, then evidence for it is a meaningless idea.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2020, 05:32:30 PM »
Would they be a preferable explanation to God? If so why?

Aliens would be perfectly natural, and do not require supernatural explanations.

In that respect they are more reasonable
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2020, 05:52:04 PM »
Vlad,

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Would they be a preferable explanation to God?

Yes.

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If so why?

Ockham's razor.
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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2020, 06:24:25 PM »
Aliens would be perfectly natural, and do not require supernatural explanations.

In that respect they are more reasonable
There is no sense until there is a methodology for supernatural claims where they appear in the category 'reasonable'.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2020, 07:12:50 PM »
Aliens would be perfectly natural, and do not require supernatural explanations.

In that respect they are more reasonable
No, they are more naturalistic. Your preference stems from your philosophical naturalism.
Philosophical naturalism cannot be established by methodological naturalism.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2020, 07:14:30 PM »

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #60 on: September 04, 2020, 07:19:39 PM »
There is no sense until there is a methodology for supernatural claims where they appear in the category 'reasonable'.
By methodology do you mean one that you can understand or one that you might not understand?

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #61 on: September 04, 2020, 07:26:31 PM »
By methodology do you mean one that you can understand or one that you might not understand?
False dichotomy. How about one that stands up to logical challenge?

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2020, 07:28:35 PM »
No, they are more naturalistic. Your preference stems from your philosophical naturalism.
Philosophical naturalism cannot be established by methodological naturalism.
Nope, please show your methodological nonnaturalism? 

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2020, 10:09:31 PM »
Nope, please show your methodological nonnaturalism?
I'm sending it to you telepathically now.
Are you getting it?

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2020, 10:32:56 PM »
I'm sending it to you telepathically now.
Are you getting it?
That you have no answer... Yes.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2020, 10:36:12 PM »
That you have no answer... Yes.
You did want something methodologically unnatural. I provided it.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2020, 10:39:04 PM »
You did want something methodologically unnatural. I provided it.
Nope

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2020, 11:31:36 PM »
Could be Old Nick trying to deceive us.
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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2020, 01:47:23 AM »

Joey Essex

I’m here to stimulate discussion. It appears to be working.



No, it is not! You post a shovelful of old bollocks and people post proof that that is what you have posted and youre response is to post another pile of old rubbish trying to masquerade as wisdom!!

The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2020, 08:19:47 AM »
Nope
Well then I’m afraid I am at a loss to know what you are after. For my part I could possibly describe methodological materialism to you but after that it gets hazy. My next stop might be to critique methodological materialism passed off as methodological history but after that I doubt I could produce a methodology for any other discipline.

I take it you can.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2020, 08:59:49 AM »
Well then I’m afraid I am at a loss to know what you are after. For my part I could possibly describe methodological materialism to you but after that it gets hazy. My next stop might be to critique methodological materialism passed off as methodological history but after that I doubt I could produce a methodology for any other discipline.

I take it you can.
Nonsensical non sequitur

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2020, 09:10:42 AM »
Nonsensical non sequitur
Not helpful i’m Afraid, but I suppose you aren’t here to help, just expose fallacies mim, mim, mim, mim, mim,mim etc.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2020, 09:49:46 AM »
Well then I’m afraid I am at a loss to know what you are after. For my part I could possibly describe methodological materialism to you but after that it gets hazy. My next stop might be to critique methodological materialism passed off as methodological history but after that I doubt I could produce a methodology for any other discipline.

I take it you can.
Using a lot of long words fools no-one.
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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2020, 09:58:32 AM »
Not helpful i’m Afraid, but I suppose you aren’t here to help, just expose fallacies mim, mim, mim, mim, mim,mim etc.
I have no idea what you are going on about.

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Re: Evidence of God
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2020, 04:46:39 PM »
And since it is a supernatural claim for a supernatural entity which you believe is an incoherent concept, then evidence for it is a meaningless idea.

No. The concept called "supernatural" is incoherent, not necessarily the entities you choose to label with the word.

Everything is supernatural until we find evidence for it, then it becomes natural.

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