UK judge orders rightwing extremist to read classic literature or face prison

[Nearly Sane]

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/01/judge-orders-rightwing-extremist-to-read-classic-literature-or-face-prison?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1630491469

[Roses]

I heard that earlier and thought the judge must be off his head. 

[Aruntraveller]

I heard that earlier and thought the judge must be off his head. 

I don't think so if you read it fully. Clearly if the chap doesn't do as he is ordered he will end up in jail.

As other methods of rehabilitating terrorists are decidedly hit and miss in their effectiveness, why not try a different approach?

The more I think about it the more I like it!

[Roses]

I don't think so if you read it fully. Clearly if the chap doesn't do as he is ordered he will end up in jail.

As other methods of rehabilitating terrorists are decidedly hit and miss in their effectiveness, why not try a different approach?

The more I think about it the more I like it!

Locking up scum like him  would be a good thing, imo.

[Aruntraveller]

Locking up scum like him  would be a good thing, imo.

You are just "othering" now.

If you are looking for a sure fire way of cementing a bigots views then locking them up with plenty of time to obsess over their troubled thoughts is a good way to start.

[jeremyp]

Locking up scum like him  would be a good thing, imo.

The trouble is that he hasn't done anything scummy yet except write a nasty letter. I think the judge's view will prove to be accurate.

[Anchorman]

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/01/judge-orders-rightwing-extremist-to-read-classic-literature-or-face-prison?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1630491469

 

I'd be in the nick, then.
Dickens leaves me cold, Austen bores me, I do like Hardy, and wouldn't touch Shakspeare with a ten foot barge pole after his mangling of Macbeth.

[Nearly Sane]

 

I'd be in the nick, then.
Dickens leaves me cold, Austen bores me, I do like Hardy, and wouldn't touch Shakspeare with a ten foot barge pole after his mangling of Macbeth.

He wrote propaganda, beautiful brilliant propaganda. He wasn't an historian so the idea that he mangled something is a category error.

[Steve H]

Locking up scum like him  would be a good thing, imo.

You really are remarkably intolerant and - one of your favourite words - unpleasant, aren't you?

[Anchorman]

He wrote propaganda, beautiful brilliant propaganda. He wasn't an historian so the idea that he mangled something is a category error.

     

Oh, we know he was a sycophant, NS. I cite that Scottish farce as evidence. He made no effort to research any of the real story of the times, invented characters who simply did not exist in a bid to sooth the Stewart love of ancestry, Got Duncan's age and mode of death wrong, invented titles and places which didn't exist in Scotland - which itself didn't exist in its' present form - at that time; neglected to say that Macbeth wasn't immediately succeeded by Malcolm, couldn't remember Macbeth's wife's name, and invented the witches to blend in with James Stewart's obsession with 'Daemonologie'.
Apart from that, it was a reasonable effort.
I was belted in my second year after I presented a critique of it in my English class by a teacher who worshipped the brummie bard.
It's a hurt thing.

[jeremyp]

     

Oh, we know he was a sycophant,

He made his living by putting on plays for the public to see in a time when displeasing the monarch of the day could be catastrophic.

 

I cite that Scottish farce as evidence. He made no effort to research any of the real story of the times, invented characters who simply did not exist in a bid to sooth the Stewart love of ancestry, Got Duncan's age and mode of death wrong, invented titles and places which didn't exist in Scotland - which itself didn't exist in its' present form - at that time; neglected to say that Macbeth wasn't immediately succeeded by Malcolm, couldn't remember Macbeth's wife's name, and invented the witches to blend in with James Stewart's obsession with 'Daemonologie'.
Apart from that, it was a reasonable effort.
I was belted in my second year after I presented a critique of it in my English class by a teacher who worshipped the brummie bard.
It's a hurt thing.

The play "Macbeth" is fiction. It was written to curry favour with the new monarch who was, of course, from Scotland. Blame James the Scottish king, if there's anything wrong with it.

[Anchorman]

He made his living by putting on plays for the public to see in a time when displeasing the monarch of the day could be catastrophic.

 
The play "Macbeth" is fiction. It was written to curry favour with the new monarch who was, of course, from Scotland. Blame James the Scottish king, if there's anything wrong with it.

   



Don't get me started on Jamie the saxt.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sx_OhB40_Q

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I don't think so if you read it fully. Clearly if the chap doesn't do as he is ordered he will end up in jail.

As other methods of rehabilitating terrorists are decidedly hit and miss in their effectiveness, why not try a different approach?

The more I think about it the more I like it!

Agreed. The judge clearly believes he can be rehabilitated and has given him the chance but rightly with many conditions.

[Robbie]

Wish there were more judges like that one. Insightful.

The boy hasn't actually done anything, only looked. The law will keep an eye on him and he'll be busy reading. If he doen't give a good account of what he's read when seen quarterly he'll be in deep trouble.

An 18 year old is too young to be labelled scum, there's hope to change his views. I hope it works.