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Re: Words and Phrases I Detest: rant thread.
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2022, 03:15:59 PM »
I believe Derrick Trotter used it in 'Only Fools and Horses'.
Interesting that we might be ranting at fiction.

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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2022, 03:51:23 PM »
You suspect that because you have not experienced something that it's never happened? Really? And all the people you have heard mention it are lying?
No, just mistaken, perhaps. Why are you so determined to pounce on everyone today?
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« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2022, 03:56:37 PM »
"From the get-go", instead of "from the start" - stupid Americanism. Why "get-go", ffs? It makes no sense.
I saw someone described online recently as a "climate denier" - another example of someone parroting a cliche without thinking about what they're saying, and mangling it into meaninglessness.
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« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2022, 04:43:54 PM »
No, just mistaken, perhaps. Why are you so determined to pounce on everyone today?
Why is pointing out your lack of logic 'pouncing'?

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« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2022, 07:33:32 PM »
If I ever heard anyone say "pacific" when the meant "specific", I'd be highly irritated, but I never have, though I frequently read it stated as a pet hate of people. I suspect that it doesn't really exist as a genuine malapropism.

It does.

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« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2022, 08:20:38 PM »
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. - God is Love.

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« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2022, 09:51:08 AM »
Interesting that we might be ranting at fiction.

It's probably the effect of mass media rather than the fiction itself.  Repetition of phrases and words are part of the process of manipulating mass mind.  Anyway, nice to see ya, to see ya .......!

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Re: Words and Phrases I Detest: rant thread.
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2022, 10:20:27 AM »
I'm all for talking about specific references like Icarus in this way. Your comment had a vaguer frame of reference.
Not that I ever did believe that you'd rediscovered your faith.
No more likely than me being a theist again, I'd say.

I was referencing the story in Acts 9 of a man who fell asleep listening to one of Paul's sermons and fell out of a third floor window. Everybody thought he was dead but Paul brought him back to life/relised he wasn't dead.

Nothing vague about it at all.
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« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2022, 10:21:14 AM »
I find that very irritating too.

I also dislike the word 'wicked' being used when they mean very nice, i.e. " My Mum makes a wicked chocolate cake!

"sick" is the new "wicked".
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« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2022, 11:49:01 AM »
"From the get-go", instead of "from the start" - stupid Americanism. Why "get-go", ffs? It makes no sense.
Watch Dave Gorman's Modern Life is Goodish. There is an episode that goes from starting on the get-go  to starting on the gecko. I can't remember which one it is though...

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/ModernLifeIsGoodish

I keep hearing ppl say "Can I get a coffee?" Sean Lock replied ,"No. You cannot GET a coffee. You can HAVE a coffee and I will GET it for you "

Even now though when I do have a coffee, when I do receive it, I keep getting told, "Enjoy." Eventually, I'll asks the server (/waiter?), 'Oh. Do I have to?'

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« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2022, 11:52:59 AM »
"sick" is the new "wicked".
I get that few of us are 'down with the youth' but surely sick is quite old on these terms. I've been hearing it used in that sense for over 20 years.

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« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2022, 12:04:36 PM »
I get that few of us are 'down with the youth' but surely sick is quite old on these terms. I've been hearing it used in that sense for over 20 years.

I agree, the word 'sick' has been used in that context for as long as I can remember. It is 'wicked' which is relatively new.

People who say, 'innit' instead of 'isn't it' are irritating. 
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Re: Words and Phrases I Detest: rant thread.
« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2022, 12:07:58 PM »
I agree, the word 'sick' has been used in that context for as long as I can remember. It is 'wicked' which is relatively new.

People who say, 'innit' instead of 'isn't it' are irritating.
No, wicked is ancient in these terms as well. Lenny Genry was using it over 30 years ago as a parody.

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« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2022, 12:08:50 PM »
I get that few of us are 'down with the youth' but surely sick is quite old on these terms. I've been hearing it used in that sense for over 20 years.
If you're over 30, trying to keep up with yoof slang is hopeless.
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« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2022, 12:25:00 PM »
If you're over 30, trying to keep up with yoof slang is hopeless.
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« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2022, 01:44:38 PM »
I'm like...
So
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« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2022, 02:29:52 PM »
And she went like
And I was OMG

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« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2022, 03:46:21 PM »
The infantilisation of the language, with anthropomorphic packaging ("I'm recyclable") and small or young vegetables being called "baby": it's hard to find new potatoes in supermarkets nowadays; they're always called "baby potatoes".
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Re: Words and Phrases I Detest: rant thread.
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2022, 03:55:53 PM »
...they're always called "baby potatoes".
As long as they aren't called spuds. Spuds can fudge right off IM(HR)O.

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« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2022, 03:59:51 PM »
As long as they aren't call spuds. Spuds can fudge right off IM(HR)O.
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« Reply #70 on: August 13, 2022, 05:38:27 PM »
The infantilisation of the language, with anthropomorphic packaging ("I'm recyclable") and small or young vegetables being called "baby": it's hard to find new potatoes in supermarkets nowadays; they're always called "baby potatoes".

We have baby plum tomatoes.
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« Reply #71 on: August 13, 2022, 05:42:05 PM »
We have baby plum tomatoes.
Small tomatoes are usually called "cherry", so they should be "cherry plum tomatoes".
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« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2022, 06:16:56 PM »
Small tomatoes are usually called "cherry", so they should be "cherry plum tomatoes".

Small round tomatoes look like cherries, whereas baby plumb tomatoes look like small plums.
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« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2022, 06:39:42 PM »
Small round tomatoes look like cherries, whereas baby plumb tomatoes look like small plums.
True - but "baby" is particularly stupid when referring to tomatoes, since we only eat them when mature, whatever their size, ulike some other fruit and veg., which can be eaten immature. "Dwarf" would be a better name for them.
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« Reply #74 on: August 13, 2022, 07:50:08 PM »
Small round tomatoes look like cherries, whereas baby plumb tomatoes look like small plums.
Baby plums will drop as they mature and smell fantastic.

So, when get some dropped plums hold them and give them a big long smell, right next to your nose.

You'll thank me, later.