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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: NDE
« Reply #75 on: November 29, 2022, 09:48:18 PM »
Err ... because of adherence to supernatural claims. Hence you have demonstrated that your assertion that there are no examples where introduction of the supernatural into psychology has been detrimental. Clearly there are many examples - and while some none supernatural interventions have have been misguided they would have been based on some semblance of evidence, even if that evidence proved to be wrong. Appealing to the supernatural is evidence-less.
I would disagree that the psychological contributions of the religious have been all, mostly or even half bad and many practitioners would acknowledge the therapeutic value of chaplains.
Religion provides psychological support when the secular authorities can't or won't provide it and it is undeniable that the practitioners of medical science provide, in many places, on a commercial basis.

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Re: NDE
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2022, 10:57:02 AM »
Actually I think they are theories, rather than hypotheses. I trust you understand the difference.
Hypotheses to be valid must be both based on prior evidence and testable. These seem not to meet either of those criteria.
The "theory" in string theory is meant in the mathematical sense not the scientific sense isn't it? Nobody has observationally shown that strings are real. Similarly for parallel universes.
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Re: NDE
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2022, 11:09:43 AM »
Vlad,

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Can you give an example of where the supernatural has been introduced into psychology and in what way it has been detrimental.

From today’s Guardian:

“‘Exposed to horrendous things’: young people in UK speak out against evangelical church

Ex-followers of Universal Church of the Kingdom of God say they felt pressure to give money and were told demons caused mental health issues”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/young-uk-people-speak-out-against-evangelical-church-universal-kingdom-god
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Re: NDE
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2022, 12:06:42 PM »
Vlad,

From today’s Guardian:

“‘Exposed to horrendous things’: young people in UK speak out against evangelical church

Ex-followers of Universal Church of the Kingdom of God say they felt pressure to give money and were told demons caused mental health issues”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/young-uk-people-speak-out-against-evangelical-church-universal-kingdom-god
Awful experience. This seems to be anti psychology so difficult to see how it is part of psychology.

It awakens in me an anxiety that people might be turning to cowboys because actual mental health provision is not available.