Arming the Ukrainians

[Spud]

Quite the opposite, but you're forgetting that Russia was the defender in those cases, France and Germany had invaded Russia, just like Russia is now (again) invading Ukraine. But you've been suggesting that Ukraine shouldn't be looking at that possibility, they should just surrender now because territorial integrity and self-defence are insufficient merits to justify such sacrifice.

O.

Interesting point, Outrider. I heard two days ago that Russia's plan is to capture the four oblasts in their entirety (stage 1) then capture Kharkiv and Odessa (stage 2) then bring the rest of Ukraine into its orbit like Belarus (stage 3). I guess they're assuming that Ukraine will keep fighting.

[Outrider]

Interesting point, Outrider. I heard two days ago that Russia's plan is to capture the four oblasts in their entirety (stage 1) then capture Kharkiv and Odessa (stage 2) then bring the rest of Ukraine into its orbit like Belarus (stage 3). I guess they're assuming that Ukraine will keep fighting.

Russia's had any number of battle-plans, and here we are several years later...

O.