Unfortunately He didn't which both you & I already know but certain here turn a blind eye-ear to ?!?!?!?
Unfortunately He didn't which both you & I already know but certain here turn a blind eye-ear to ?!?!?!?
Rose you are all over the place are you a Christian if you could answer that it might help to untangle so much of the nonsense you have at the moment.
Also you might ponder why is a third temple necessary.
And why do all Jews need to go back to Israel.
~TW~
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Ezekiel 37:26-28: Build the Third Temple
Isaiah 43:5-6: Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel
Isaiah 2:4: Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore."
Zechariah 14:9: Spread universal knowledge of the G-d of Israel - uniting the entire human race as one: "G-d will be King over all the world—on that day, G-d will be One and His Name will be One"
How did Jesus fulfil the above? Especially the two in boldThis is why Jews don't accept Jesus as the messiah
How do Christians explain that there was no world peace in Jesus's time or any time, really?
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Ezekiel 37:26-28: Build the Third Temple
Isaiah 43:5-6: Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel
Isaiah 2:4: Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore."
Zechariah 14:9: Spread universal knowledge of the G-d of Israel - uniting the entire human race as one: "G-d will be King over all the world—on that day, G-d will be One and His Name will be One"
How did Jesus fulfil the above? Especially the two in boldThis is why Jews don't accept Jesus as the messiah
How do Christians explain that there was no world peace in Jesus's time or any time, really?
Oh, and btw, the Jews do not accept Christ because they have a veil upon their hearts which make them blind to the scriptures. Only once they acknowledge Christ will they understand them properly. Until then they are cut off from the one true Israel of God, which is the Church.
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Ezekiel 37:26-28: Build the Third Temple
Isaiah 43:5-6: Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel
Isaiah 2:4: Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore."
Zechariah 14:9: Spread universal knowledge of the G-d of Israel - uniting the entire human race as one: "G-d will be King over all the world—on that day, G-d will be One and His Name will be One"
How did Jesus fulfil the above? Especially the two in boldThis is why Jews don't accept Jesus as the messiah
How do Christians explain that there was no world peace in Jesus's time or any time, really?
Oh, and btw, the Jews do not accept Christ because they have a veil upon their hearts which make them blind to the scriptures. Only once they acknowledge Christ will they understand them properly. Until then they are cut off from the one true Israel of God, which is the Church.
You have just made that one up! ::)
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Ezekiel 37:26-28: Build the Third Temple
Isaiah 43:5-6: Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel
Isaiah 2:4: Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore."
Zechariah 14:9: Spread universal knowledge of the G-d of Israel - uniting the entire human race as one: "G-d will be King over all the world—on that day, G-d will be One and His Name will be One"
How did Jesus fulfil the above? Especially the two in boldThis is why Jews don't accept Jesus as the messiah
How do Christians explain that there was no world peace in Jesus's time or any time, really?
Oh, and btw, the Jews do not accept Christ because they have a veil upon their hearts which make them blind to the scriptures. Only once they acknowledge Christ will they understand them properly. Until then they are cut off from the one true Israel of God, which is the Church.
You have just made that one up! ::)
Nope. Just read the scriptures, especially the epistles of St Paul.
Unfortunately He didn't which both you & I already know but certain here turn a blind eye-ear to ?!?!?!?
Rose you are all over the place are you a Christian if you could answer that it might help to untangle so much of the nonsense you have at the moment.
Also you might ponder why is a third temple necessary.
And why do all Jews need to go back to Israel.
~TW~
No idea, TW.
I'm much more interested in the last two in bold.
Those would have an impact on my life, the first two wouldn't.
So are probably not relevant to me as an individual.
I don't think I am a Christian, but am quite happy to discuss different aspects of Christianity but I don't accept theology because I have some issues with the logic of it and think it's just people's thoughts.
Unfortunately He didn't which both you & I already know but certain here turn a blind eye-ear to ?!?!?!?
Rose you are all over the place are you a Christian if you could answer that it might help to untangle so much of the nonsense you have at the moment.
Also you might ponder why is a third temple necessary.
And why do all Jews need to go back to Israel.
~TW~
No idea, TW.
I'm much more interested in the last two in bold.
Those would have an impact on my life, the first two wouldn't.
So are probably not relevant to me as an individual.
I don't think I am a Christian, but am quite happy to discuss different aspects of Christianity but I don't accept theology because I have some issues with the logic of it and think it's just people's thoughts.
Rose if you are going to start post/thread,please pick a subject you know something about.
~TW~
I do know something about it, because I went and found out what the Jews expected of a Messiah.
I'm not going to accept Christian theology uncritically unlike many Christians.
Nor am I going to be intimidated by Christians who believe in their own theology more than anything else and who would like to silence me.
That is yet to come when our Lord returns. Then there will be a new heaven and a new earth and all will be one in God.
That is yet to come when our Lord returns. Then there will be a new heaven and a new earth and all will be one in God.
So until he does his magic with a new earth he could be just another in a very long line claiming to be the messiah.
Oh dear! Don't demonise the Jews in your attempt to glorify your own theology.
Rose these are the words of Jesus dont blame me also check this out
http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm
~TW~
Oh dear! Don't demonise the Jews in your attempt to glorify your own theology.
Rose these are the words of Jesus dont blame me also check this out
http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm
~TW~
Do you really think he was talking about ALL Jews?
Really?
I think his words have been taken out of context.
I don't think he ever meant it as a criticism of ALL Jews.
That sounds like it was made up by various churches to justify themselves and spread antisemitism.
Oh dear! Don't demonise the Jews in your attempt to glorify your own theology.
Rose these are the words of Jesus dont blame me also check this out
http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm
~TW~
Do you really think he was talking about ALL Jews?
Really?
I think his words have been taken out of context.
I don't think he ever meant it as a criticism of ALL Jews.
That sounds like it was made up by various churches to justify themselves and spread antisemitism.
Rose you are making me tired read what he said in scripture,try to stand on your own two feet we cant hold your hand through life everyday.
~TW~
Oh dear! Don't demonise the Jews in your attempt to glorify your own theology.
Rose these are the words of Jesus dont blame me also check this out
http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm
~TW~
Do you really think he was talking about ALL Jews?
Really?
I think his words have been taken out of context.
I don't think he ever meant it as a criticism of ALL Jews.
That sounds like it was made up by various churches to justify themselves and spread antisemitism.
Rose you are making me tired read what he said in scripture,try to stand on your own two feet we cant hold your hand through life everyday.
~TW~
Oh dear! Don't demonise the Jews in your attempt to glorify your own theology.
Rose these are the words of Jesus dont blame me also check this out
http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm
~TW~
Do you really think he was talking about ALL Jews?
Really?
I think his words have been taken out of context.
I don't think he ever meant it as a criticism of ALL Jews.
That sounds like it was made up by various churches to justify themselves and spread antisemitism.
Rose you are making me tired read what he said in scripture,try to stand on your own two feet we cant hold your hand through life everyday.
~TW~
~TW ~
Tired?
Perhaps you need to go to bed earlier ~TW~
I doubt if it is me, making you tired.
Perhaps it's the strain of thinking for yourself ;)
I am reading scripture and I can see what says, I've also spent some time looking at the Jewish context for it.
I don't need anyone to hold my hand ~TW~
I'm perfectly capable of trotting off to this and that and a Synagogue/church, listening to the different arguments , and reading up on other sources for myself.
In fact, on such matters I wouldn't allow another person to " hold my hand" some things in life you have to look into and make up your own mind about in your own way.
A lot of theology is designed to stop you doing that.
Mainly because with a theology you have a tailor made answer, which someone else thought of, so you don't need to question it, you just concentrate on believing it.
But it is always someone else's reasoning as opposed to using your own ( perhaps that explains the tiredness)
That's just not acceptable to me, (someone else thinking it out for me) I like sorting out my own answers.
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Unfortunately He didn't which both you & I already know but certain here turn a blind eye-ear to ?!?!?!?
Rose you are all over the place
Here's a requirement to ponder, He had to come before the second temple was destroyed.That ship has sailed.
Here's a requirement to ponder, He had to come before the second temple was destroyed.
Why?
It makes more sense to say he had to come after the second one was destroyed.
He couldn't have rebuilt the third one before then, because the second one was still standing.
::)
:) Goodnight TW
Here's a requirement to ponder, He had to come before the second temple was destroyed.
Why?
It makes more sense to say he had to come after the second one was destroyed.
He couldn't have rebuilt the third one before then, because the second one was still standing.
::)
Here's a requirement to ponder, He had to come before the second temple was destroyed.
Why?
It makes more sense to say he had to come after the second one was destroyed.
He couldn't have rebuilt the third one before then, because the second one was still standing.
::)
It's in the Jewish scriptures, look it up
No it isn't.
As usual it has been mistranslated and twisted
More here.
https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/answers/jewish-polemics/texts/daniel-9-a-true-biblical-interpretation/
Not that you will read it.
But some of the others might be interested.
This is some of themQuote
Ezekiel 37:26-28: Build the Third Temple
Isaiah 43:5-6: Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel
Isaiah 2:4: Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore."
Zechariah 14:9: Spread universal knowledge of the G-d of Israel - uniting the entire human race as one: "G-d will be King over all the world—on that day, G-d will be One and His Name will be One"
How did Jesus fulfil the above? Especially the two in boldThis is why Jews don't accept Jesus as the messiah
How do Christians explain that there was no world peace in Jesus's time or any time, really?
What exactly did Jesus, A JEW, do to help his fellow JEWS in His time ????
No it isn't.A very interesting article, Rose. Interesting in that, rather like Floo does, it picks up on thinking among some more extreme and sectal groups (such as the JWs - in the latter example) and tries to make out that that is mainstream Christian thinking.
As usual it has been mistranslated and twisted
More here.
https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/answers/jewish-polemics/texts/daniel-9-a-true-biblical-interpretation/
Not that you will read it.
But some of the others might be interested.
Therefore in Daniel the passages should be correctly translated as:
Daniel 9:24 “Until an anointed prince” and not as “Until Messiah he prince.”
Daniel 9:25. “an anointed one will be cut off” and not as “the Messiah will be cut off.”
Additionally, in verse 25 there is no definite article (Hey ~ ה) before the word (משיח ~ Moshiach) and it is incorrect to translate this as “the Messiah” or “the anointed one” as if it were speaking about one exclusive individual. When translating correctly as an “anointed individual” the passages could be referring any one of a number of different individuals or objects that were anointed and not necessarily “the Messiah.”
Not sure that he merely 'explained them more fully'. LJ. With some he expanded them beyond anything that the Jewish leaders had ever considered. He also taught other ideas that weren't included in the 10 Commandments.What exactly did Jesus, A JEW, do to help his fellow JEWS in His time ????
I can't see that he did anything, other than preach to them. They already had the ten commandments, which I suppose he reduced to two and explained them more fully.
Not sure that he merely 'explained them more fully'. LJ. With some he expanded them beyond anything that the Jewish leaders had ever considered. He also taught other ideas that weren't included in the 10 Commandments.What exactly did Jesus, A JEW, do to help his fellow JEWS in His time ????
I can't see that he did anything, other than preach to them. They already had the ten commandments, which I suppose he reduced to two and explained them more fully.
Oh dear! Don't demonise the Jews in your attempt to glorify your own theology.
Rose these are the words of Jesus dont blame me also check this out
http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm
~TW~
Do you really think he was talking about ALL Jews?
Really?
I think his words have been taken out of context.
I don't think he ever meant it as a criticism of ALL Jews.
That sounds like it was made up by various churches to justify themselves and spread antisemitism.
Rose you are making me tired read what he said in scripture,try to stand on your own two feet we cant hold your hand through life everyday.
~TW~
~TW ~
Tired?
Perhaps you need to go to bed earlier ~TW~
I doubt if it is me, making you tired.
Perhaps it's the strain of thinking for yourself ;)
I am reading scripture and I can see what says, I've also spent some time looking at the Jewish context for it.
I don't need anyone to hold my hand ~TW~
I'm perfectly capable of trotting off to this and that and a Synagogue/church, listening to the different arguments , and reading up on other sources for myself.
In fact, on such matters I wouldn't allow another person to " hold my hand" some things in life you have to look into and make up your own mind about in your own way.
A lot of theology is designed to stop you doing that.
Mainly because with a theology you have a tailor made answer, which someone else thought of, so you don't need to question it, you just concentrate on believing it.
But it is always someone else's reasoning as opposed to using your own ( perhaps that explains the tiredness)
That's just not acceptable to me, (someone else thinking it out for me) I like sorting out my own answers.
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