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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Keith Maitland on February 07, 2017, 01:31:03 PM

Title: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Keith Maitland on February 07, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
As a society, we’ve failed to confront a reality that has emerged time and again from psychological research. Two traits — general intelligence and self-control — are perhaps our best individual level predictors of living a successful life. More on what “successful” means momentarily. However, failure to appreciate the reach of intelligence and self-control, though troublesome in the past, will become increasingly problematic as our modern American economy becomes ever more technological and our economy ever more global. In fact, had we appreciated the importance of these traits more fully in the decades leading up to now, we might have foreseen more clearly the rise of a Donald J. Trump style presidential candidate.

RTWT here:

http://quillette.com/2017/02/06/dealing-with-the-reality-that-not-everyone-can-succeed/
Title: Re: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Udayana on February 07, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
I agree with the specific claim "Two traits — general intelligence and self-control — are perhaps our best individual level predictors of living a successful life", but can't see where he wants to go with that. It applies to all humans, not only Americans.
Title: Re: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Outrider on February 07, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
As a society, we’ve failed to confront a reality that has emerged time and again from psychological research. Two traits — general intelligence and self-control — are perhaps our best individual level predictors of living a successful life. More on what “successful” means momentarily. However, failure to appreciate the reach of intelligence and self-control, though troublesome in the past, will become increasingly problematic as our modern American economy becomes ever more technological and our economy ever more global. In fact, had we appreciated the importance of these traits more fully in the decades leading up to now, we might have foreseen more clearly the rise of a Donald J. Trump style presidential candidate.

RTWT here:

http://quillette.com/2017/02/06/dealing-with-the-reality-that-not-everyone-can-succeed/

I think the very fact that 'tweet first, don't bother asking questions later' Trump has attained high office is more than adequate a demonstration that either general intelligence or self-control are required to succeed. Or, perhaps, they are required, but they can be supplied by others... There are some quite smart, quite self-controlled people in the background of Trump's campaign, who have used him to achieve access to power.

O.
Title: Re: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Bubbles on February 07, 2017, 06:01:48 PM
People do deal with it though, they say " it's the taking part and trying that counts"

Title: Re: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on February 11, 2017, 08:12:00 AM
I think society today is gladiatorial without the obvious death and bloodshed.
You cannot have won without someone having lost and been roundly humiliated.
Title: Re: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Udayana on February 11, 2017, 10:14:39 AM
I guess people, lacking intelligence and self-control, are happy to live in a "winner takes all" society based on competition and greed, as those are then the driving factors. They think of themselves as winners who can claw their way up.







Title: Re: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Rhiannon on February 11, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
Even baking cakes is a reality contest now and gives the opportunity for unbridled venom from the audience.
Title: Re: Dealing With The Reality That Not Everyone Can Succeed
Post by: Dicky Underpants on February 13, 2017, 04:46:50 PM
People do deal with it though, they say " it's the taking part and trying that counts"

Well, they do if they're English.