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General Category => Sports, Hobbies & Interests => Topic started by: ProfessorDavey on November 11, 2020, 01:27:50 PM
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I've never seen anything like this in my life - just astonishing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/golf/54897477
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I've never seen anything like this in my life - just astonishing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/golf/54897477
What is the bet that he couldn't repeat it if he tried from now 'til Doomsday?
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I've never seen anything like this in my life - just astonishing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/golf/54897477
An incredible shot but not a hole in one.
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An incredible shot but not a hole in one.
True - thread title changed
Edit - I was wrong - it was a hole in one. Certainly according to The Times. The 170yd par 3 16th at Georgia effectively has nothing between the tee and the green except the lake.
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An incredible shot but not a hole in one.
Why not? It certainly appeared to be so to me.
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An incredible shot
Correct
but not a hole in one.
Wrong
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True - thread title changed
Edit - I was wrong - it was a hole in one. Certainly according to The Times. The 170yd par 3 16th at Georgia effectively has nothing between the tee and the green except the lake.
Hmmm. Everybody is reporting it as a hole in one but it really doesn't look like a tee shot. He seems to have the ball partially buried in the grass
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Why not? It certainly appeared to be so to me.
It didn't look like a tee shot.
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What is the bet that he couldn't repeat it if he tried from now 'til Doomsday?
OK I did a bit more research.
Apparently, it is a tradition to try trick shots skimming the ball off the lake during the practice rounds before the tournament. That's why it didn't look like a tee shot to me - he wasn't using a tee. The camera filming must have had a telephoto lens that flattened the perspective too.
As to whether he couldn't repeat it if he tried: maybe not, but he did have a hole in one on the Monday as well at the fourth.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/golf/watch-jon-rahms-incredible-water-skimming-hole-in-one-at-us-masters-practice-ng-b881718544z
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OK I did a bit more research.
Apparently, it is a tradition to try trick shots skimming the ball off the lake during the practice rounds before the tournament. That's why it didn't look like a tee shot to me - he wasn't using a tee. The camera filming must have had a telephoto lens that flattened the perspective too.
As to whether he couldn't repeat it if he tried: maybe not, but he did have a hole in one on the Monday as well at the fourth.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/golf/watch-jon-rahms-incredible-water-skimming-hole-in-one-at-us-masters-practice-ng-b881718544z
Yes that's correct - it is traditional to attempt to skim the ball across the lake on the 16th in practice (no-one would ever try it in the actual tournament). Hence you need a low trajectory and wouldn't use a tee, although the shot was taken from the tee area, so a hole in one.
It has been done before apparently, but a very rare occurrence.
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I don't think it's hit from any official tee area. It's way too close to the water for the 16th at Augusta for that so in that sense it isn't an official hole in one. In the end it doesn't really matter. It's rather hypnotic watching.
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I don't think it's hit from any official tee area. It's way too close to the water for the 16th at Augusta for that so in that sense, it isn't an official hole in one. In the end, it doesn't really matter. It's rather hypnotic watching.
And how many golfers wouldn't say no to the chance of doing it themselves?
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I don't think it's hit from any official tee area. It's way too close to the water for the 16th at Augusta for that
How do golfers define "the tee area"? According to Google Earth the flat area of grass where you can put a tee is 38 metres long and the Sun implies that golfers in the masters would take the tee shot from the back of that area (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8772884/masters-2020-augusta-18-holes-revealed-tiger-woods/). On the assumption that Rahm took the shot from the front edge of that area (which is what I would do if I was looking to skim the lake), he was more than 30 metres in front of the official tee.
so in that sense it isn't an official hole in one. In the end it doesn't really matter. It's rather hypnotic watching.
Agree to both of those.
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How do golfers define "the tee area"? According to Google Earth the flat area of grass where you can put a tee is 38 metres long and the Sun implies that golfers in the masters would take the tee shot from the back of that area (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8772884/masters-2020-augusta-18-holes-revealed-tiger-woods/). On the assumption that Rahm took the shot from the front edge of that area (which is what I would do if I was looking to skim the lake), he was more than 30 metres in front of the official tee.
I don't think golfers define it at all. The tee area is defined by the course and trounament officials, not the golfers. And the tee area is often pretty large, as is the case here.
However tournament rules may define a smaller areas for particular types of tournament. So, for example elite professional men may tee off from an area at the back of the overall tee area, while elite women may use a part nearer the pin, thereby reducing the effective length of the hole. Amateurs likewise may be able to use the front of the tee area.
So it is unlikely that Rahm would have been able to tee off from where he did in the actual tournament, but I don't think that detracts from the shot as the issue isn't really the length of the shot but the skill involved in pulling it off.
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It's been done before...!
https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/tour/us-masters/augusta-blog/masters-traditions-skimming-7933