Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Sports, Hobbies & Interests => Topic started by: Aruntraveller on January 04, 2022, 11:47:53 AM
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Call me a cynic by all means but Djokovic's medical exemption seems a tad convenient:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59865959?
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Not convenient enough though, it would seem - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/06/novak-djokovic-visa-cancelled-why-is-the-tennis-star-being-kicked-out-of-australia (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/06/novak-djokovic-visa-cancelled-why-is-the-tennis-star-being-kicked-out-of-australia)
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Newsthumps take:
https://newsthump.com/2022/01/06/fully-vaccinated-french-newcomer-novacques-chocoviche-given-wild-card-entry-to-australian-open/?
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The first player to be knocked out of a grand slam tournament after missing only two shots.
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Canada to play Spain in ATP Cup Final. The 2 teams with the highest ranked second singles player - so not a huge surprise.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59920319
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Canada beat Spain in the ATP Cup. Shapovalov and Auger Aluassime are a formidable team, though a full strength Russian team would still likely win most matches.
Also tournament wins for Barty in her first tournament since the US Open, Halep making her way back from injury, and Anisimova after a bad year or so.
Also tournament wins for Nadal, and Monfils - which is good to see, particularly Monfils who has had a hard couple of years.
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Wins for Evans and Murray
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Wins for Evans and Murray
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59871514
I'm afraid that took me to the sleaze news of Prince Andrew!!
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I'm afraid that took me to the sleaze news of Prince Andrew!!
Apologies, try this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59963071
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Apologies, try this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59963071
Thank you - that was much more interesting!
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Thank you - that was much more interesting!
Murray through to semi finals, Evans is as well but BBC have not updated their story. ETA - they have now updated it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59977556
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Murray through to semi finals, Evans is as well but BBC have not updated their story. ETA - they have now updated it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59977556
Good news and very encouraging to hear.
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Meanwhile the Djokovic saga chunters on
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-59991762
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Murray into final but Evans knocked out in 3 sets.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59992967
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Karatsev beats Murray in final
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60007026
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Karatsev beats Murray in final
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60007026
I'm sorry he lost, but it sounds as if it was a good match to watch. I really hope he does well in the Australian Open.
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Very disappointing loss from Norrie
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60020461
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8:16 a.m. HJust been listening to the end of the Andy Murray match. What a fantastic win - on the very last point!
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8:16 a.m. HJust been listening to the end of the Andy Murray match. What a fantastic win - on the very last point!
Yes, and he is now provisionally back in the top 100 (ok, he's at number 100, and may drop a couple of places dependent on later results but it is still signs of progress. Basilashvili is a good player.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60034761
Looking at the provisional rankings Federer has lost a lot of points due to not playing. Dependent on when he returns he could be out of the top 32.
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So Raducanu, Watson, and Evans win, with Broady and Dart losing.
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Yes, and he is now provisionally back in the top 100 (ok, he's at number 100, and may drop a couple of places dependent on later results but it is still signs of progress. Basilashvili is a good player.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60034761
Looking at the provisional rankings Federer has lost a lot of points due to not playing. Dependent on when he returns he could be out of the top 32.
I've been to Salisbury today to meet baby Maisie, who is of course gorgeous. Reuben was there too so it was just delightful. Two next week, Reuben is talking more and everybody is well.
On the radio before I left, I heard that Liam Brody had lost, but the score, which I can't find, did not sound like a bad one, so I hope it will give him encouragement.
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I've been to Salisbury today to meet baby Maisie, who is of course gorgeous. Reuben was there too so it was just delightful. Two next week, Reuben is talking more and everybody is well.
On the radio before I left, I heard that Liam Brody had lost, but the score, which I can't find, did not sound like a bad one, so I hope it will give him encouragement.
It was 6-4, 6-4, 6-3. He made a lot of good progress in Challenger tournaments last year. He's at his highest ever ranking.
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Thank you for Liam Brody's score.
In the next post there is a panel with words in which voice doesn't read. Is it a joke or something?
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Thank you for Liam Brody's score.
In the next post there is a panel with words in which voice doesn't read. Is it a joke or something?
It is a joke SD. It goes along the lines of "The English Cricket Board have decided to employ Novak Djokovic, admittedly he knows nothing about cricket but it did take Australia 2 weeks to get him out."
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It is a joke SD. It goes along the lines of "The English Cricket Board have decided to employ Novak Djokovic, admittedly he knows nothing about cricket but it did take Australia 2 weeks to get him out."
Thank you! :)
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Fascinating detail on Sofia Kenin's loss in the first round that she's dropped out of the top 90,having been ranked 13 before the tournament.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/australian-open/australian-open-2022-live-scores-updates-ash-barty-news/news-story/39fc22f4af3e5a7567ffb454c2ab963f
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Murray, Watson, and Raducanu out. Raducanu struggling with a blister. Evans through on walkover.
Interesting match tomorrow with Nadal v Khachanov. Nadal has not lost a competitive match since his return from injury. Khachanov will be a good test.
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I listened to most of Murray match and it sounds as if his opponent played well, and I was sorry to hear that at the end he flung his racquet to the ground.
And then I listened to some of Emma Radukanu's match, but it sounds as if that was quite a nasty blister.
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An interview with Novak Djokovic on BBC1 this evening at 8.30 about his reasons for not taking the Covid-19 vaccination. There was a clip of the interview on BBC Breakfast this morning and Djokovic was very interesting in his replies, i.e. he claims not to be an anti-vaxxer but is very concerned for his bodily health and says this is more important to him than winning any trophies or accolades.
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An interview with Novak Djokovic on BBC1 this evening at 8.30 about his reasons for not taking the Covid-19 vaccination. There was a clip of the interview on BBC Breakfast this morning and Djokovic was very interesting in his replies, i.e. he claims not to be an anti-vaxxer but is very concerned for his bodily health and says this is more important to him than winning any trophies or accolades.
It will be interesting then to see whether and how he considers himself above others he could have given the virus to.
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It will be interesting then to see whether and how he considers himself above others he could have given the virus to.
Why? He hasn't had the vaccine. Nothing you can do about it. No point in wondering if he considers himself above others. What's the point of that?
Deal with the facts.
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For a couple of reasons have not been following tennis as closely lately, but next week we will have the first male tennis single player ranked No 1 outside of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray in over 18 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60512757
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And next week Djokovic will return to No 1, despite not playing. Odd world, tennis.
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Fascinating match up at Indian Wells between Nadal, yet to lose this year, against Alcaraz, the young contender from Spain, in the semi final.
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Nadal out for some weeks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60817261
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Why? He hasn't had the vaccine. Nothing you can do about it. No point in wondering if he considers himself above others. What's the point of that?
Deal with the facts.
Let's be honest, nothing anybody says about any tennis player on this thread has any point. Djokovic is clearly an idiot who thinks his status as a great tennis player means he can ignore the law and he has contempt for everybody he endangers as a result. There may not be any point in saying that but it's still a fact.
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Let's be honest, nothing anybody says about any tennis player on this thread has any point. Djokovic is clearly an idiot who thinks his status as a great tennis player means he can ignore the law and he has contempt for everybody he endangers as a result. There may not be any point in saying that but it's still a fact.
Yea. I agree totally with you.
That wasn't my point in that post, and it's a while ago now.
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Ash Barty retires - could be a big problem for women's tennis with Serena Williams unlikely to be back for any length of time, Osaka looking out of sorts. There's a strong cadre of younger players in Swiatek, Raducanu, Fernandez, and Gauff but losing the world number 1 will hit hard.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-60843870
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Let's be honest, nothing anybody says about any tennis player on this thread has any point.
True enough.
Djokovic is clearly an idiot who thinks his status as a great tennis player means he can ignore the law and he has contempt for everybody he endangers as a result. There may not be any point in saying that but it's still a fact.
A fact? Surely just an opinion or view based on media speculation and projection?
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At last I'm able to catch up - I'd accidentally clicked on something and I couldn't read posts or reply. Now fixed thank goodness. I'd heard various bits of news on FiveLive, but not much.
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Good win by Draper over Simon, setting up a UK second round match with Norrie.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60855331
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Norrie only UK interest left in the either singles competition.
Fascinating to see the progress of Fruhvirtova. Easy win over an injured Azarenka last round, big match vs Badosa next.
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And so Joe Salisbury will become the 3rd UK player tk be ranked at No 1 since computer based rankings were introduced
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60898459
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And so Joe Salisbury will become the 3rd UK player tk be ranked at No 1 since computer based rankings were introduced
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60898459
That is really nice to hear.
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In the Challenger tournament in Marbella, we have the return of both Thiem and Wawrinka today.
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In the Challenger tournament in Marbella, we have the return of both Thiem and Wawrinka today.
And they both lost. Norrie also lost in Miami though seems to have an injury issue.
Fruhvirtova lost to Badosa, and Swiatek eased past Gauff. Swiatek having an excellent run.
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Swiatek into final and continues her winning streak. And she faces a resurgent Osaka.
Medvedev beaten by Hurkacz so Djokovic will remain No 1. He's joined in the semi finals by Alcaraz, who he plays, Ruud, and Francisco Cerundolo, the older brother of the two professional tennis playing Cerundolo brothers.
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Swiatek beats Osaka relatively easily on her 17th straight win, during which she is on a run of 20 straight sets won. With Barty retiring, she's looking a cut above every one else.
Men's final between Ruud and Alcaraz.
Medvedev going to be out for a couple of months as he's having operation. This means most of the clay court season will have no Nadal, no Medvedev, and no clay court season for Murray and Federer. It also means that if Djokovic plays he's pretty well certain to remain number 1 till the French Open.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60966957
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Alcaraz wins in straight sets. Third youngesr Masters 1000 winner after Nadal and Chang.
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Wimbledon has banned players from Russia and Belarus.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61161016
Not sure I agree with this. Tennis (in most cases) is very different to, for example the Football World Cup or the Olympics. In the latter athletes compete under the banner of their country and formally represent their country, even in individual sports in the case of the Olympics. They are selected under the auspices of their country, wear kit of the country's team, receive medals in a ceremony with national anthem played and the flag of the country raised.
This is very different to Wimbledon where a competitor competes as themselves, in an individual sport - that they may be from a particular country seems irrelevant - they are not representing that country, they are representing themselves.
The Davis Cup is different, of course, but I'm not sure individual tennis players should be banned from competing in an individual tournament simply because they are Russian.
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I'm on the fence currently on the ban. This is a good defence of it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/21/wimbledon-russia-medvedev/
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Raducanu, Evans, and Draper win in Madrid. Big win by Draper over Sonego who is a bit of a clay court specialist
Surprised that Murray has taken a wildcard given the possible impact of clay oourt play on his hip. Interesting first round match up with the returning Thiem, given they are 2 of the 4 slam winners in the men's draw.
Lot of anticipation to see Nadal's early return from injury/surgery.
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Murray beat Thiem in straight seats. Tough match next against Shapovalov, but if he wins and Djokovic were to beat Monfils then they would meet in the next round.
Norrie won his first round match which means four players from the UK in the second round men's tournament at Madrid. Not sure if that has happened in the Open era.
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Murray beat Thiem in straight seats. Tough match next against Shapovalov, but if he wins and Djokovic were to beat Monfils then they would meet in the next round.
Norrie won his first round match which means four players from the UK in the second round men's tournament at Madrid. Not sure if that has happened in the Open era.
Sounds promising - hope to hear of more wins later ...
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Sounds promising - hope to hear of more wins later ...
Third set loss for Draper but he looked good
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61309148
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The defeat of Federer from 2 sets down was one of the greatest matches I've seen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61312463
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Raducanu out, Murray through to play Djokovic, big win over Shapovalov. I wonder whether despite its punishing of his hip if clay might suit his 'new' game better.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61314518
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61309148
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Evans and Norrie through, and Nadal wins on his return.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61326717
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Murray pulls out because of illness!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61333021
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Very sorry to hear that. Hope it's nothing serious. He would have lost no doubt, but he would have had strong support from those who much admire his taking part and doing well in the last match.
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Huge win for Alcaraz over Nadal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61352827
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And Alcaraz beats Djokovic. Up to 6th in the world and 2nd in the ATP race
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And Alcaraz beats Djokovic. Up to 6th in the world and 2nd in the ATP race
Is this Alcaraz an exciting plaer to watch? Aiming for the top spot it seems. ~Well done, him.
What was the Jocavic - Murray result? Did you watch the match?
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Is this Alcaraz an exciting plaer to watch? Aiming for the top spot it seems. ~Well done, him.
What was the Jocavic - Murray result? Did you watch the match?
Yes, he's a great player to watch, paticularly on clay. Murray has to pulll out of the match with Djokovic because of illness.
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Thank you, NS.
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Easy win for Alcaraz over Zverev.
Also win in men's doubles by Koolhof, and UK player Neal Skupski, who are leading the ATP Doubles Race by over 1,000 points.
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Fascinating match coming up in the Italian Open 1st round with Raducanu 2021 US Open Champion, and Andreescu, 2019 US Open Champion returning from injury again.
Both became champions while teenagers.
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Fascinating match coming up in the Italian Open 1st round with Raducanu 2021 US Open Champion, and Andreescu, 2019 US Open Champion returning from injury again.
Both became champions while teenagers.
just to add to this Andreescu was the first teenager to win a woman's slam title since 2006 and Sharapova doing it. Since then in addition to Raducanu, Swiatek won the French as a teenager.
Also they are both, as is indicated by their names, of Romanian heritage. Both Andreescu's parents are Romanian, while Raducanu's father is.
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Good article on the teenage slam winners, both men and women, in the Open Era that the BBC did when Raducanu won the US Open.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/58545598
None in the men's since Nadal in 2005, the question is whether Alcaraz will be the next.
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just to add to this Andreescu was the first teenager to win a woman's slam title since 2006 and Sharapova doing it. Since then in addition to Raducanu, Swiatek won the French as a teenager.
Also they are both, as is indicated by their names, of Romanian heritage. Both Andreescu's parents are Romanian, while Raducanu's father is.
Andreescu wins with Raducanu withdrawing in 2nd set with injury.
Osaka, the 2018 and 2020 US Open Champion also withdrew through injury
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Fascinating match coming up with Djokovic playing a returning Wawrinka.
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Fascinating match coming up with Djokovic playing a returning Wawrinka.
Not surprisingly Djokovic wins in straight sets, but great to see Wawrinka back with a couple of wins
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Djokovic will drop down to 2nd in the rankings if he loses to Auger Aliassime today despite Medvedev not playing currently due to surgery.
Andreescu comes up against Swiatek who is on a 25 match winning streak.
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Djokovic beats Tsitsipas in straight sets to get his firsr title of 2022.
Swiatek wins, and is now on a 5 tournament, 28 match winning streak. The record in women's tennis in the Open Era is 74 matches by Martina Navratilova.
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Laura Robson retires
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61410385
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No ranking points at Wimbledon. This is going to make it very hard for Djokovic to finish as year end No 1.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61401519
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Norrie in Lyon Open final this afternoon. A win would set him up well for the French Open.
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Norrie wins Lyon Open
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Alcaraz, Djokovic, Nadal, and Zverev a all through the quarter finals in the French. Djokovic and Nadal to play each other.
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Watched the Nadal-Aliassime five set match on tv yesterday - a very tough game for Nadal.
Would be nice to see Cilic get through today - but not expecting it...
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Watched the Nadal-Aliassime five set match on tv yesterday - a very tough game for Nadal.
Would be nice to see Cilic get through today - but not expecting it...
An easy win for Cilic which I have to admit to being glad about as well as he fights back up the ratings.
An a big win for Rune over Tsitsipas.
Even with Ruud, and Rublev winning and getting to the quarter finals, the top half of the draw with Djokovic, Nadal, Zverev, and Alcaraz looks even more stacked know.
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Oh and a very easy win for Murray at Surbiton.
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Trevisan and Gauff into the women's semi finals. Great story for Trevisan who had 4 years out due to an eating disorder.
All UK interest gone with Skupski and his partner Koolhof, and Salisbury and his partner Ram knocked out on the quarter finals of the men's doubles.
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Nadal beats Djokovic, and Zverev beats Alcaraz. The crowd atmosphere in the Nadal - Djokovic match was quite unpleasant from the spectators against Djokovic, much moreso than previous years.
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Nadal beats Djokovic, and Zverev beats Alcaraz. The crowd atmosphere in the Nadal - Djokovic match was quite unpleasant from the spectators against Djokovic, much moreso than previous years.
Yes, was pretty clear. Djokovic also showed his frustration inappropriately a couple of times. In the end it was all about ... tenacity :)
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I listened to FiveLive commentary for most of fourth set and it certainly sounded as if there was some powerful rallies; and the commentary was good too.
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Nice, today, to see Cilic persevere in his 5 set / tie break against Rublev ... life in the old dog yet!
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Nice, today, to see Cilic persevere in his 5 set / tie break against Rublev ... life in the old dog yet!
Agree, though in tennis terms now not quite as old a dog as many. Nadal is 2 years and 4 months older.
He's joined in the semi finals by Ruud who whioe having reached a final of a Masters tournament is definitely making a significant breakthrough here.
In the women's, Swiatek continues her winning streak, and will face Kasatkina in the semi finals. Kasatkina, is after Swiatek, the highest ranked player left in the women's, having been ranked 20 at the start of the tournament.
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So Swiatek v Gauff in the final. Both winning easily. Gauff provisionally ranked 13 but would move up to 8th with a win.
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And Gauff into the women's doubles final with her partner, Pegula.
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Men's final of Nadal, after Zverev retired injured in middle of what looked to be an epic, and Ruud, who has won more clay court matches than anyone else over the last 2 seasons - BUT Nadal looking for his 14th!!!! French title has never been beaten in a final at Roland Garros.
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And Gauff into the women's doubles final with her partner, Pegula.
Should be a good game ...
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Men's final of Nadal, after Zverev retired injured in middle of what looked to be an epic, and Ruud, who has won more clay court matches than anyone else over the last 2 seasons - BUT Nadal looking for his 14th!!!! French title has never been beaten in a final at Roland Garros.
Very eventful day, yesterday! Looking forward to the final :)
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So the champions are the favourites, Swiatek and Nadal. Nadal's records at the French are barely believable and look unmatchable.
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How much longer will we see Nadal on the court?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61698213
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Good win for Murray over Bublik, next up is Tsitsipas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61749410
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And big win for Murray over Tsitsipas, the current world no. 5.
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Perhaps it is a good idea to have the surname of Murray!
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Perhaps it is a good idea to have the surname of Murray!
Just to be clear, it is Andy Murray that won.
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Just to be clear, it is Andy Murray that won.
Thank you. Yes, I heard on one of the FiveLive news last night that it was indeed Andy Murray. I suppose I was a bit surprised! Very pleased, though, of course.
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Murray in final after beating Kyrgios against Berrettini. Evans in final at Nottingham
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Looking at a link about Andy Murray latest, I see that Nick Kyrgios complained about racial abuse. What is that all about? Isn't he a Greek-Australian?
Wouldn't it be great if Andy Murray got through to the Wimbledon final!
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Looking at a link about Andy Murray latest, I see that Nick Kyrgios complained about racial abuse. What is that all about? Isn't he a Greek-Australian?
Wouldn't it be great if Andy Murray got through to the Wimbledon final!
As far as I can find he was called 'a little black sheep' and told to 'shut up and play a little'. Hmm...
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Murray loses in 3 sets to Berrettini.
Big shock at the Libema Open where Tim van Rijthoven whom I had never heard of till this week, beats Medvedev in the final, after beating Auger Aliassime in the semi final.
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Evans wins at Nottingham
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As last year's French Open points drop off Djokovic falls to number 3 in the rankings, and will fall further down after Wimbledon points drop off. It means for the first time since 2003, the top 2 does not contain one of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, or Murray.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61760076
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Queens starts today. 3 UK men in action in the singles, all with tough draws. Draper v Fritz, the number 4 seed, Broady v Cilic, number 7 seed and previous winner here, and Norrie, the number 3 seed and last year's finalist, v Dimitrov, the highest ranked non seed and another previous winner.
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Defeats in 3 sets for Norrie and Broady but big straight sets win for Draper.
Excellent win for Dart in the wonen's tournament at Birmingham
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And Murray out of Queen's
(Queen's what?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61791134
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Very disappointing for Murray of course, but I hope he feels really pleased with his ranking.
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Another 3 UK men in action at Queen's this afternoon.
Iubb v van de Zandschlup, who last year became the first lerson to get through qualifying on all 4 slams. A record which is going to be difficult to equal, since in qualifying for the first 3 you make it very likely that you won't need to qualify for the 4th.
Peniston (stop giggling at the back) v Ruud, the no 1 seed.
Evans v Berrettini, the number 2 seed and reigning champion.
At Birmingham only UK woman playing in the singles today is Boulter v Riske, 7th seed.
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Jubb out in 3 sets.
But huge victory for Peniston over Ruud, no1 seed, 5th ranked in world, and recent French Open finalist.
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Evans out but Boulter through in Birmingham
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And Serena to return to Wimbledon
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61798903
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Draper beaten by a very impressive Ruusuvuori, leaving only Peniston from the UK in the singles at Queen's.
Ar Birmingham, Boulter through but Dart out.
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And Peniston into quarter final after topsy turvy match.
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And Berrettini won Queen's for 2nd time and is currenyly joint second favourite for Wimbledon with Nadal, behind Djokovic.
Had the pleasure of watching an excellent match yesterday between Linette and Riske - 6-7 6-3 7-6. Filled with great shots, and swings in fortune.
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Isner serves at 134mph and Andy holds-on for a fourth set.
Fingers and toes all firmly crossed!
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Isner serves at 134mph and Andy holds-on for a fourth set.
Fingers and toes all firmly crossed!
Apart from a phone call from a friend half-way through, I listened to most of that and it sounds as if it was a good match and not a humiliating type of defeat for Andy Murray.
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So we are guaranteed 2 men in the semi finals who have never reached a slam semi final.
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So we are guaranteed 2 men in the semi finals who have never reached a slam semi final.
And 3 women.
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So we are guaranteed 2 men in the semi finals who have never reached a slam semi final.
I heard bits on Five Live yesterday, but I didn't catch who it was that Moray beat in the round before the semi-final, or indeed, whether he is one of the semi-finalists?
I heard that Heather Watson was out but doo not know which three women are the ones you refer to.
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I heard bits on Five Live yesterday, but I didn't catch who it was that Moray beat in the round before the semi-final, or indeed, whether he is one of the semi-finalists?
I heard that Heather Watson was out but doo not know which three women are the ones you refer to.
We're not at the semi finals yet. We're at the last matches in the 4th round but given those left the numbers above will be correct. If by Moray, you meant Norrie, then he beat Tommy Paul to get into quarter finals where he will play Goffin.
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Little gem of a match into 5th set and 3-3 all between Garin and De Minaur
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We're not at the semi finals yet. We're at the last matches in the 4th round but given those left the numbers above will be correct. If by Moray, you meant Norrie, then he beat Tommy Paul to get into quarter finals where he will play Goffin.
Thank you.
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Little gem of a match into 5th set and 3-3 all between Garin and De Minaur
Garin takes it 7-6 on the Champion's Tie Break. Back from 2 sets down and saving 2 match points.
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Superb from Sinner so far.
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Superb from Sinner so far.
And gone
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Norrie through. A cracking match.
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Norrie through. A cracking match.
it was indeed
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And Nadal out with injury. Not a surprise.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62082405
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And Nadal out with injury. Not a surprise.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62082405
A shame.
Leaving Kyrgios in the final ... also a shame.
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I heard on a Five Live news that Morrie had won the first set so I'm pleased it was not too easy a win for Jocavic. Was it a good match to watch?
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I heard on a Five Live news that Morrie had won the first set so I'm pleased it was not too easy a win for Jocavic. Was it a good match to watch?
After Norrie's performance level dropped off in the 2nd set, it was a bit meh. Looking forward to Rybakina v Jabeur today. Didn't think Rybakina would have beaten Halep, never mind so easily. Jabeur is a delight to watch. Interesting that Rybakina her moved her citizenship 4 years ago from Russia to Kazakhstan, else she wouldn't be allowed to compete this year.
The lack of points has caused a couple of oddities, not least Jabeur will drop 3 places despite getting to her first semi final and final in a Slam.
Struggling with the Djokovic v Kyrgios match up. In some ways, hope they both lose.
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I heard on a Five Live news that Morrie had won the first set so I'm pleased it was not too easy a win for Jocavic. Was it a good match to watch?
Norrie is a great player but just couldn't match Djokovich's precision and endurance after he'd properly warmed up.
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This is a long but interesting and informative read about tennis umpires:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/07/tennis-umpires-secret-world-you-cant-be-the-players-friend?
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And some of the players commenting about the lack of points.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62099840
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Murray out to Bublik, though since he had looked quite injured at the end of the previous match, better than I was thinking.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62186688
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Might be some time before Djokovic plays in a big tournament
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62248745
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Murray out, but Draper, and Edmund on his first match in a year through.
Boulter, and Venus Williams in her first match in over a year out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62389446
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Evans beats Edmund Draper out, Raducanu through.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62404189
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Raducanu and Evans into their respective quarter finals. Norrie into his semi final where he plays Auger Aliassime whom he has never beaten, but who has been a bit off form of late.
Elsewhere in the Silicon Open Gauff beat Osaka in straight sets.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62432402
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Norrie beats Auger Aliassime but Evans and Raducanu out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62446769
Meanwhile Djokovic not allowed into Canada because of his lack of vaccination status so out of Montreal, as are Nadal and Zverev with injury.
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In the end, quite an easy victory for Medvedev over Norrie. Given the likely absences, late returns from injury Medvedev looking good to defend the US Open. Though Kyrgios who is back in another final is definitely on a major return to form, and also moving up the doubles rankings.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62454663
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N/S
Interesting posts and link.
(I've tried to post this several times but it keeps disappearing ...)
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Kyrgios wins his first title in 3 years. He also won in the doubles and with no play last year, and sporadic okay this year is now the 20th ranked male doubles player. Should he win his first round match in Montreal tomorrow, he will play Medvedev in the 2nd round!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62460625
Draper and Murray in first round matches in Montreal later today.
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Rain delayed much of Montreal matches yesterday, so Murray, Norrie, Evans and Raducanu all due to start matches today. Draper resumes match 1 set up.
Serena Williams win her match, her first win in over a year, though in only her second match in that time but she's made clear in interview that she may well be finished with tennis soon. I suspect the US Open will be it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62481750
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Draper, Evans, and Norrie through. Raducanu, and Murray out. Murray looked a bit lacking in confidence.
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Draper, Evans, and Norrie all win. Big win for Evans over Rublev, and huge win for Draper over an out of sorts Tsitsipas.
Kyrgios beats Medvedev, and looks the current form player. With Alcaraz, the sevond seed out, it's a very open field now.
Serena Williams lost to Bencic, and it looks as if the US Open may see both Williams' sisters play their last singles matches.
Djokovic reliant on an exemption being granted by Biden if he is to play.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62499567
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Interesting article on Serena Williams
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/aug/10/serena-williams-farewell-eloquent-acknowledgement-biological-inequality?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Draper and Evans through, Norrie out.
In the women's, Swiatek knocked out, leaving Pegula the highest seed left in the draw at 7. Looking at who is left in the draw, Gauff looks strong, and we perhaps have the emergence of a new star in Qinwen Zhang.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62514162
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Evans wins but Draper out, and Kyrgios loses to Hyrkacz. Both Evans and Hurkacz are in the semi finals of the doubles aa well.
Halep knocks out Gauff, and Haddad Maia becomes the first Brazilian woman in the semi finals of a 1000 WTA tournament
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62531546
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Evans loses in the singles semi final but goes through to the doubles final.
A couple of interesting matches for British players in Cincinnati with Raducanu playing Serena Williams, and Murray playing Wawrinka.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62538655
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Wins for Halep and Carreno Busta in Montreal, now onto Cincinnati and the return of Nadal.
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Murray and Norrie through after tough matches and will now play each other.
At Montreal Gauff's win in the doubles means she is now ranked the No 1 women's doubles player.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62555150
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Murray and Norrie through after tough matches and will now play each other.
At Montreal Gauff's win in the doubles means she is now ranked the No 1 women's doubles player.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62555150
That was an interesting article - thank you for posting the link. I hope the match is on FiveLive.
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And easy win for Raducanu over Serena. Evans knocked out. Murray and Norrie currently at 1 set each.
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Norrie wins 6-4 in 3rd set against Murray. So Murray will not be seeded for US Open
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And Raducanu beats Azarenka 6-0 6-2 which means she's beaten two former world No1s with 25 Slams for a total loss of 6 games.
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Norrie wins 6-4 in 3rd set against Murray. So Murray will not be seeded for US Open
And that's the way it should be now that Murray is older, but I hope it was not too one-sided and that it was not marred by anythin confrontational.
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Nadal loses in his return. He's currently way ahead in the year to date points race but a big run from any of a number of players in the indoor season could see them end as year end number 1.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62587086
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Raducanu out, but Norrie through easily
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62599673
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And Norrie into semi final against Coric who is having a return to form.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62615492
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Coric beats Norrie and will face Tsitsipas in the final. In the women's Kvitova and Garcia will play. The US Open looks very open on both men and women's competitions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62622489
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And Coric and Garcia win in straight sets. He's the lowest ranked qualifier to win a Masters 1000 tournament in men's, and she's the first qualifier to win a Women's 1000 tournament.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62627507
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Draper into quarter finals in Winston Salem tournament beating the returning (slowly) Thiem but beating a former US Open Champion the week before the US Open starts is a good boost.
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The Williams sisters to play doubles as well as singles at US Open
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62703155
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Interesting article on Kyle Edmund's return from injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62704094
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Successful day for Murray beating the 24th seed Cerundulo, Draper, and particularly Dart beating Kasatkina who after a couple of recent tournament wins had moved into the top ten and was a reasonable bet for the whole thing. Edmunds list to Ruud but that is no disgrace given Ruud is the 5th seed.
Couple of other shocks with Tsitsipas and Fritz losing in the men's, and Halep in the women's.
Meanwhile huge celebrations were held around Serena Williams match, but given she won, all going to have to happen again when she plays the second seed Kontaveitt
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62708531
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62718319
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62718326
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62718771
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That sounds like a good start for Murray, but I think the Serena rapturous welcome that I listened to part of on FiveLive was just the teenniest bit OTT!
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That sounds like a good start for Murray, but I think the Serena rapturous welcome that I listened to part of on FiveLive was just the teenniest bit OTT!
I think the thing with Serena is that she's bigger than her success in tennis. She's a breakthrough athlete for US black women. Add to that that it takes place at the US Open which is the most racuous of the Slams, and on the iconic Arthur Ashe court.
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Norrie and Evans through, Raducanu out. 4 UK men in second round in US - couldn't tell you last time that happened.
Match ups are Murray vs Nava - US wild card that Murray should beat
Draper vs Auger Aliassime - tough match
Evans vs Duckworth - not easy but Evans should win
Norrie vs Sousa - and Norrie should win
In the women's Dart vs Galfi - very even match up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62720093
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62733471
Elsewhere in the women's 2 former champions knocked out in Venus Williams, and Osaka. Venus definitely not a surprise, and Osaka only a bit of a surprise.
More surprising was Rybakina, the Wimbledon champion's loss to Burel. It's been obvious though that all is not right with Rybakina who feels the lack of points at Wimbledon has affected her ranking, undeniable, and the stature of her win, possibly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62729238
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Ooh err Nava takes 1st set from Murray.
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Murray takes 2nd set
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3rd set to Murray
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And Murray wins, bagelling Nava in the last set. Up to 40 in the provisional rankings.
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But Dart also bagelled in the 2nd set against Galfi, and so out. Only caught the last couple of games but she just didn't look focussed.
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It all sounds good and I heard about Murray's win on FiveLive and it was nice to hear no mention of pain or difficulty.
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And Serena does it again! Putting out second seed Kontaveit.
Also out third seed Sakkari. Both Kontaveit and Sakkari are little known outside of tennis circles, and illustrate that the women's game has some issues if Serena retires. With Barty retiring, and both Raducanu and Fernandez from last year's final out, it feels an odd tournament
Impressive win for previous champion Andreescu, who was a surprise then, over the in form Haddad Maia. And another easy win by the in form Garcia.
The writer's choice wouid surely be a Gauff - Serena semi final but there are some tough matches before that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62747297
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62745538
Huge win for Draper over Auger Aliassime, who was a reasonable chance for champion. Straight sets as well.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62734089
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Evans and Norrie through. Second time in the Open Era that 4 UK men have reached the 3rd round in a Slam.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62747788
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I listened to some of the Morrie match and the two commentaters were talking about the weight of tennis balls, and it appears that in the NY Open the balls are heavier. That seems an odd idea- what do you think about that
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I listened to some of the Morrie match and the two commentaters were talking about the weight of tennis balls, and it appears that in the NY Open the balls are heavier. That seems an odd idea- what do you think about that
The controversy is that some women want the women's tennis balls to be heavier .. to match the men's tennis balls ... It is unusual for the women to have lighter balls .. probably affects their game ... But not the men's.
Don't know how ball weight varies between different venues .. (but can't they just treat it as a game?)
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The controversy is that some women want the women's tennis balls to be heavier .. to match the men's tennis balls ... It is unusual for the women to have lighter balls .. probably affects their game ... But not the men's.
Don't know how ball weight varies between different venues .. (but can't they just treat it as a game?)
The difference between the venues is to do with the surfaces. The men are using tennis balls that are designed for hard courts, the women ones designed for clay courts.
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The difference between the venues is to do with the surfaces. The men are using tennis balls that are designed for hard courts, the women ones designed for clay courts.
So, the request for heavier women's balls seems entirely reasonable.
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So, the request for heavier women's balls seems entirely reasonable.
The temptation to go full Finbar Saunders and his double entendres is calling.
Resisting that I've not heard of a similar decision before but one of the issues here is that the lighter balls seem to suit certain styles of play so not all of the women are opposed. I've seen a couple of articles on this but none where the US Open provide an explanation of the decision.
Both Kasatkina and Saville, who played in the final of the last women's tournament on the weekend before the US Open started, were knocked out in the first round. At the time I wondered if it was just fatigue but perhaps the balls in the Granby tournament were the more normal choice and they had issues adjusting.
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Whatever is the decided weight of the balls, whoever has to use them should be given plenty of warning and time to practise with them on different types of court.
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So Murray out in 4 sets to Berrettini, and Draper out in middle of match through injury.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62761689
Serena bows out in 3 sets, and having lost in the doubles the ptevious day, says farewell.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62775664
After Serena's match, reigning men's champion Medvedev won in straight sets to move into next round where he will play Kyrgios in what looks like it's between 2 of the favourites.
In both men and women's, there is a strong line up of Russian players left. Reasonable possibility that Putin will have a PR triumph of winners in the US Open.
Today Norrie plays Rune, and is a slight favourite. Evans plays Cilic and will be the underdog. Cilic has been having a return to form and as one of the 3 previous winners left in the men's is a definite contender.
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Interesting article on Serena.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62777986
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Norrie through in straight sets but I was watching the Muguruza vs Kvitova match which Kvitova took 12-10 in 3rd set tiebreak. Match of the championship so far for me.
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Evans knocked out by Cilic in a very tough match.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62782835
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Matches sound good but have no way of watching (except after the event on YouTube) and R5 just sends me to sleep.
I suppose streaming would be possible but decided to limit channels to one paid for service each year/contract.
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Matches sound good but have no way of watching (except after the event on YouTube) and R5 just sends me to sleep.
I suppose streaming would be possible but decided to limit channels to one paid for service each year/contract.
I'm much the same but that one service I have is Amazon Prime and it's on there.
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I raised earlier the possibility of a PR coup for Putin. Now the last 16 have been reached, 2 Russian, Kudermetova ans Samsonova, and 2 Belorussian players, Sabalenka and Azarenka, remain in the women's draw.
In the men's 3 Russians, Medvedev, the reigning champion, Khachanov, and Rublev who plays Norrie, and 1 Belorussian, Ivashka.
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Kyrgios beats Medvedev in 4 and made it look easy. Not convinced Medvedev was quite at his best but not sure it would have mattered. Kyrgios was stunning.
It means though that Medvedev loses the number 1 ranking, and that no one since Federer in 2008 has defended the men's US Open.
The number 1 at the end of the tournament will be one of Nadal, Alcaraz, or Ruud. I think few people could name Ruud from a picture, and he's never won a Masters 1000 tournament but it's a very consistent season.
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Already in the women's, a new champion is guaranteed. Given last year's final was Raducanu v Fernandez, the US continues as the most open of the Slams over the last 15 years.
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Norrie loses first set to Rublev
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Rublev takes 2nd set and is break up
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Norrie out in straight sets. Rublev looked steady
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Tiafoe takes 1st set against Nadal. There was some discussion last night on Amazon Prime's coverage about whether Kyrgios was now the favourite. The general feeling was that Nadal was the favourite but given his recent injury and that Kyrgios had win 1 more match that didn't feel right to me.
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I'm much the same but that one service I have is Amazon Prime and it's on there.
We could have signed up for the free trial I guess, but in practice I'm too tired out to watch much anyway.
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Tiafoe takes 1st set against Nadal. There was some discussion last night on Amazon Prime's coverage about whether Kyrgios was now the favourite. The general feeling was that Nadal was the favourite but given his recent injury and that Kyrgios had win 1 more match that didn't feel right to me.
Somehow would like both Nadal and Tiafoe to win this match. Kyrgios sounds in much better shape than he was at Wimbledon.
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Somehow would like both Nadal and Tiafoe to win this match. Kyrgios sounds in much better shape than he was at Wimbledon.
2 sets to 1 to Tiafoe currently
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We could have signed up for the free trial I guess, but in practice I'm too tired out to watch much anyway.
The night matches work with my insomnia when it hits. Still find it baffling though that the Jabeur - Kudermetova match didn't start till after 22:00 New York time, and that would have been later if Kyrgios - Medvedev had gone to a 5th set.
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Tiafoe beats Nadal, leaving Cilic as the only previous winner left in either men's or women's singles.
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And Cilic was knocked out by Alcaraz meaning no previous champions in either men or women's championships at the quarter finals.
I was a bit surprised that Nadal's return happened so sharply and it may be some time before he returns.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62802845
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And Cilic was knocked out by Alcaraz meaning no previous champions in either men or women's championships at the quarter finals.
I was a bit surprised that Nadal's return happened so sharply and it may be some time before he returns.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62802845
Sad to see them both go, Nadal especially. You can't keep pushing your body beyond the limits it can recover from (as I've been finding out).
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Ruud and Khachanov into semi finals. If either Ruud or Alcaraz get to the final, they will be the world number 1. If both get there, the winner will be number 1.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62813615
And in the women's Garcia, the form player of the North American swing, will play Jabeur.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62815332
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Sabalenka plays Swiatek. Tiafoe plays Alcaraz. Alcaraz's match with Sinner finished at 2.50 am New York time. Ludicrous.
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Women's final between Swiatek and Jabeur. So Putin's PR coup won't happen in the women's.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62831894
In the men's doubles, Salisbury, the UK's world number 1 ranked doubles player, is into the final. If he wins, he will remain world number 1, if he loses he will be replaced by Neal Skupski, also of the UK, who is on other team in final.
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Alcaraz and Ruud into final, so no PR triumph for Putin, but a new man's number 1. The US has been tge 1 slam in the past 16 years not completely dominated by the 'big 5'. No one outwith Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Murray, and Wawrinka has won any of the other 3 slams in that time. Indeed each of those has only ever been won by 4 out of those. The US has been won by all 5, and Cilic, Thiem, and Medvedev. Add to that that none of the quarter finalists this year had ever won a slam, and even with the odd wrinkle of Djokovic's vaccine related absence, and it feels like a new era has properly begun.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62846443
Salisbury and Ram retain the men's doubles, meaning Salusbury stays as the number 1 ranked doubles player. Along with that pairing, and Skupski and Koolhof, whom they beat in the final, both of who are certainties to qualify for the year end, Glasspool and Heliovaara are ranked in 7th currently and if they qualify, would mean 3 pairings with a British player. And none of them would be with the most successful British doubles player of recent years, Jamie Murray
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62855656
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Swiatek beats Jabeur in straight sets, and now has more than twice the number of points in this year's race than Jabeur who has the second highest. While that wouldn't quite be true if there had been points for Wimbledon, it's still indicative of a hugely dominant year for Swiatek following Barty's retirement.
It's underlined even more by being nearly 3 times the points of Pegula who is in 3rd place in the race. Oddly Pegula has that position but hasn't won a tournament this year.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62866285
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And Alcaraz wins and becomes the youngest ever number ranked man by a remarkable 1 year and 137 days.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62873508
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And now into the Davis Cup
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62895663
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Uk loses 2-1 to USA in their first round robin over 3 very tight matches. Murray highlights that this was another very late finish.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62904254
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Roger Federer to retire after Laver Cup:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62911876
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Roger Federer to retire after Laver Cup:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62911876
Not a surprise, and a good way to say goodbye. Be intetesting to see if this means Nadal will play in it.
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UK out of Davis Cup and some complaining about the team selection.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/62936762
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Fruhvirtova into her first WTA final in Chennai and win or lose will have moved into the top 100 in rankings.
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Fruhvirtova wins in Chennai to move up to 74 in the rankings.
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It's been a pleasure.
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It's been a pleasure.
This is all I can find on Roger's farewell but still a treat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBe1IIqWDNE
If the comment is true that he told Rafa 10 days before anyone else about his retirement then Rafa proves to be a trusted friend.
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It's been a pleasure.
Indeed, he has given tremendous entertainment and inspiration over the years.
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Given I posted on this topic for Susan Doris even more than even self indulgence, I've refrained from posting since she seems likely to be gone forever.
I'll just note that Canada won their first ever Davis Cup at the eeekend and with Auger Aliassime and Shapovalov may well win more. That would be less likely if Russia get allowed back at any time.
Anyway, I won't start a 2023 thread for the reasons above.