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General Category => Sports, Hobbies & Interests => Topic started by: jeremyp on August 30, 2022, 02:04:52 PM
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Four matches in to the new EPL season and we have our first casualty. Scott Parker has been fired by Bournemouth after effectively saying the team is not good enough.
I shall nail my colours to the mast and say my predictions are:
Manchester City wins the league easily.
The other members of the top four will be Liverpool, Arsenal and one of Chelsea and Spurs.
Bournemouth will be relegated but I don't know who will be going down with them.
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Brendan Rodgers to be sacked soon?
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Meanwhile, some absolute shockers from VAR again. The best league in the world has the worst officials in the world. Corrupt as fuck!
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62783142
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Btw, does anyone else here think Tuchel looks like a meth head? That's the only conclusion I can come to, because having looked at the video he still thinks Bowen fouled Mendy. What hope do we have when the managers don't call the bad decisions even if they go their way?
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This is just taking the piss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62783917
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Brendan Rodgers to be sacked soon?
It's not looking good for him.
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Tuchel gone
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62817993
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Tuchel gone
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62817993
Ha! :) You beat me to it.
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Brendan Rogers, David Moyes and Stevie G must be feeling a bit insecure at the moment. Given that Leicester are playing Aston Villa on Saturday in a relegation battle, I expect somebody to be fired soon after.
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Brendan Rogers, David Moyes and Stevie G must be feeling a bit insecure at the moment. Given that Leicester are playing Aston Villa on Saturday in a relegation battle, I expect somebody to be fired soon after.
Gerrard gone.
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I was reading the comments on the BBC report on Arsenal's game last night (1-0 against PSV Eindhoven) and I found one that said that Arsenal are the first team to win every single game they played under one prime minister's tenure.
I think it is true of the Premier League. Arsenal last lost on the 4th of September and Liz Truss took office two days later. I haven't bothered to check any of the lower tiers though or the women's top tier except Arsenal women, who also have a 100% record in the period.
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Liverpool went down again, this time to Nottingham Forest. I never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but maybe Klopp is in trouble.
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Liverpool went down again, this time to Nottingham Forest. I never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but maybe Klopp is in trouble.
Not yet but if this average form continues maybe.
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Not yet but if this average form continues maybe.
That's not the worst of it. I have a bet with a friend - who is a Liverpool fan - that Liverpool will end up in the top two. I'm a bit concerned for my £10.
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Liverpool is allegedly up for sale
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63555465
Come on. Stop messing about. I've got my bet to win.
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And now asking Qatar to host the World Cup is a mistake according to Sepp Blatter
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63554507
Literally everybody knew that except the FIFA committee
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And now asking Qatar to host the World Cup is a mistake according to Sepp Blatter
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63554507
Literally everybody knew that except the FIFA committee
On so many levels.
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For better or worse, the World Cup has started. The host nation has lost its opening match for the first time ever and the BBC seems to think that is a disaster.
My predictions for the group stages:
Group A: 1 Netherlands 2 Senegal
Group B: 1 England 2 USA
Group C: 1 Argentina 2 Mexico
Group D: 1 France 2 Denmark
Group E: 1 Spain 2 Germany
Group F: 1 Belgium 2 Croatia
Group G: 1 Brazil 2 Switzerland
Group H: 1 Portugal, 2 Uruguay
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Bit of a shock for Argentina.
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Bit of a shock for Argentina.
Certainly was.
And we are now getting into the territory of trying to pre-think the ease vs difficulty of each half of the drawer. I've seen comments suggesting that England would be better finishing second in their group as that would mean they'd be in a different half of the drawer if Argentina also finish second in their group.
Far too difficult to achieve this and also high risk as you are basing this on the outcomes of other games that haven't happened yet.
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Certainly was.
And we are now getting into the territory of trying to pre-think the ease vs difficulty of each half of the drawer. I've seen comments suggesting that England would be better finishing second in their group as that would mean they'd be in a different half of the drawer if Argentina also finish second in their group.
Far too difficult to achieve this and also high risk as you are basing this on the outcomes of other games that haven't happened yet.
And also, if Argentina can be turned over by Saudi Arabia, then there's not really any reason to fear them.
Germany lost too. Germany is in the same group as Spain, so there is a danger of them not qualifying at all.
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And also, if Argentina can be turned over by Saudi Arabia, then there's not really any reason to fear them.
Germany lost too. Germany is in the same group as Spain, so there is a danger of them not qualifying at all.
True.
So overthinking this could end up with neither Germany or Spain or Argentina in the half of the draw which would include group B top side.
And you are right - if England are to really progress at some point they are going to need to play a top side. If the height of ambition is quarter final I can see how you get their fortuitously with everything working in your favour. That isn't the case if the height of ambition if winner/finalist - if that's the case you'll have to play and presumably beat a top side somewhere along the line.
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True.
So overthinking this could end up with neither Germany or Spain or Argentina in the half of the draw which would include group B top side.
And you are right - if England are to really progress at some point they are going to need to play a top side. If the height of ambition is quarter final I can see how you get their fortuitously with everything working in your favour. That isn't the case if the height of ambition if winner/finalist - if that's the case you'll have to play and presumably beat a top side somewhere along the line.
Yes. The ambition as beaten finalists in the Euros and beaten semi-finalists at the last World Cup must be to win. Being concerned that we might meet a strong team at an earlier stage of the knock-out is an admission that we do not have the quality and that the objective is to go as far as possible just to look good. We just need to aim to win all our matches. That simplifies everything.
On a slightly different note, I'm listening to the Rest is History podcasts about the World Cup. They've got as far as 1950, which is the first one in which England was involved. We got knocked out in the second round by the USA. Allegedly, they had one shot on goal and we hit the woodwork 11 times. The loss, which was considered the biggest upset ever at the time, was reported everywhere except in the USA and the UK. It wasn't reported in the USA because nobody cared about football there and it wasn't reported in Britain because it coincided with England's first ever loss in a test match to the West Indies.
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Looks like we are not going to have to play Germany.
Also it's shaping up to the point where even their press want to be better than ours at shredding the national team.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63832705
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I'm of the opinion that we should seriously consider declaring war on France now!
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I'm of the opinion that we should seriously consider declaring war on France now!
We'd probably lose that too though.
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Now I can start enjoying the football.
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We'd probably lose that too though.
No way. French will surrender straight away as always.
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No way. French will surrender straight away as always.
Now then.
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I'm of the opinion that we should seriously consider declaring war on France now!
Nah....long live the Auld alliance!
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Wouldn't mind seeing Morocco win.
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Wouldn't mind seeing Morocco win.
I wouldn't mind that too. Something different. They have a West Ham player as well.
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Nah....long live the Auld alliance!
Booooo!😊
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Now then.
I know! It was a stereotype. But why against the French! Almost anyone else would have done. Now they've got years of one upism.
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I know! It was a stereotype. But why against the French! Almost anyone else would have done. Now they've got years of one upism.
I understand :-)
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I wouldn't mind that too. Something different. They have a West Ham player as well.
Winning the World Cup with a West Ham player would certainly be remarkable.
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Winning the World Cup with a West Ham player would certainly be remarkable.
Can't think of any off top of head for 56 years.
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Can't think of any off top of head for 56 years.
Though
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-west-ham-areola-28544203
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Now they've got years of one upism.
I don't think so - World Cup 2022 won't be defined for the French by beating England. For them it will be defined as either:
France embarrassingly capitulate to Morocco - or
French final heartbreak to Croatia/Argentina - or
Triumphant France retain World Cup
The quarter final won't get a look in.
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I don't think so - World Cup 2022 won't be defined for the French by beating England. For them it will be defined as either:
France embarrassingly capitulate to Morocco - or
French final heartbreak to Croatia/Argentina - or
Triumphant France retain World Cup
The quarter final won't get a look in.
As Henning Wehn once said.
"England-Germany is always a big game, although for Germany there are usually much bigger games to follow".
Of course, on this occasion, Germany's defining game wasn't a much bigger game or even an England match.
The England France match will not be the one that the French remember from this World Cup.
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As Henning Wehn once said.
"England-Germany is always a big game, although for Germany there are usually much bigger games to follow".
Of course, on this occasion, Germany's defining game wasn't a much bigger game or even an England match.
The England France match will not be the one that the French remember from this World Cup.
They will remember that one of their players became only the second player in history to score a hat-trick in a World Cup Final and yet they still lost.
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They will remember that one of their players became only the second player in history to score a hat-trick in a World Cup Final and yet they still lost.
I had to laugh as Ally McCoist commented along the lines of,
The first hat trick in as WC final where the ball crossed the line for all three goals!
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Everton directors to not attend match against Southampton because of a credible threat. WTF!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64275576
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West Ham v Everton on Saturday - loser sacks their manager?
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West Ham v Everton on Saturday - loser sacks their manager?
I'm going for a really bad draw, because that, a loss for Southampton and a loss for Bournemouth might see the bottom four managers getting fired.
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David Moyes on Frank Lampard "I hope he stays - he should be given the chance to prove he can do it"
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David Moyes on Frank Lampard "I hope he stays - he should be given the chance to prove he can do it"
I think he's proved he can't - to the satisfaction of the Everton board, anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63610629
NB: I wasn't sure if you knew about it when you posted.
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Fat Frank is the seventh EPL manager to be sacked or depart* this season.
https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2021/10/what-managers-have-been-sacked-this-season
For reference, only ten managers were sacked during the whole of last season.
Graham Potter may be in danger of being sacked twice. Actually I think Graham Potter left Brighton.
*The seven includes Graham Potter leaving Brighton.
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I think he's proved he can't - to the satisfaction of the Everton board, anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63610629
NB: I wasn't sure if you knew about it when you posted.
He was still there when I posted.
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Of course...
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Proper cup upset
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64283514
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Proper cup upset
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64283514
And the pre match team talk for Darvel.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/64380935
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And Jim Goodwin goes after Aberdeen lose 6 nil in El Sackico
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Ridiculous sums of money
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64473758
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Hmmm...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536785
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And Marsch sacked
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63339426
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Jones sacked after 3 months
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64616084
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Bid from Qatar for Man Utd
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64684703
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Guardiola seems in a good mood
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64960349
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And Vieira gone
https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/announcement/club-statement-patrick-vieira/
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And a funny sense of deja vu
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65013469
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Barely believable numbers for Cristiano Ronaldo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65059270
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Conte gone
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64168691
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And absurd numbers fron Messi as well but when you are playing a liqueur...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65108739
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Conte gone
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64168691
Brendan Rogers and Graham Potter bit the dust.
I think this is probably the worst season ever for manager changes in the EPL.
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Any guesses on the next manager to leave? I think it's between Steve Cooper and Jurgen Klopp.
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And of course Lampard to Chelsea
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65196241
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Any guesses on the next manager to leave? I think it's between Steve Cooper and Jurgen Klopp.
Or Moyes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62784293
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Or Moyes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62784293
Stellini as it turns out. He lasted only four games.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65365163
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And the Spurs players will reimburse the ticket prices for the fans.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65389917
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Garcia out at Leeds, Allardyce in
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65444406
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Is that 15 managerial changes now?
And there are three more scheduled for the end of the season.
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Pleasing finish in the Scottish 2nd Division
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I think there's a law that says those two teams always have to finish fourth and fifth respectively.
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Interesting announcement from Raith Rovers
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Match day today. West Ham v Fiorentina in the final of the Europa Conference League. Getting quite excited. Once in a lifetime stuff for a West Ham fan. The last time we got this far in a European competition was 1976. I was only six months old at the time. Managed to talk my boss into giving me the day off tomorrow, so I'm getting tanked up and going down the pub.
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Match day today. West Ham v Fiorentina in the final of the Europa Conference League. Getting quite excited. Once in a lifetime stuff for a West Ham fan. The last time we got this far in a European competition was 1976. I was only six months old at the time. Managed to talk my boss into giving me the day off tomorrow, so I'm getting tanked up and going down the pub.
Good luck.
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Good luck.
Ditto
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Cheers! ;D
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Cheers! ;D
From the European Cup Winners Final in 1976
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From the European Cup Winners Final in 1976
My first West Ham hero.
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My first West Ham hero.
Brilliant player.
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Match day today. West Ham v Fiorentina in the final of the Europa Conference League. Getting quite excited. Once in a lifetime stuff for a West Ham fan. The last time we got this far in a European competition was 1976. I was only six months old at the time. Managed to talk my boss into giving me the day off tomorrow, so I'm getting tanked up and going down the pub.
Enjoy the day off.
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Just woke up. In the clouds! Might need a hair of the dog.
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I've criticised him this season for our poor league form but I'm really pleased for Moyes as well. It's not easy managing all those competitions without a massive squad. I really am happy for him.
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I've criticised him this season for our poor league form but I'm really pleased for Moyes as well. It's not easy managing all those competitions without a massive squad. I really am happy for him.
It's a weird one. Could have gone down but pulled some form up at the end. And winning any European trophy is very hard. Just enjoy it.
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Given the fact that a stop of the end of the season and start for the next is not all clear cut, my suggestion is we use this thread for the Women's World Cup and start a new one for events actually from 2023 - 24? Any comments
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JfC!
https://www.danburymint.co.uk/football/celtic/the-celtic-fc-record-breakers-treble-watch/UK-CRBTW.html