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Title: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on August 30, 2022, 02:04:52 PM
Four matches in to the new EPL season and we have our first casualty. Scott Parker has been fired by Bournemouth after effectively saying the team is not good enough.

I shall nail my colours to the mast and say my predictions are:

Manchester City wins the league easily.

The other members of the top four will be Liverpool, Arsenal and one of Chelsea and Spurs.

Bournemouth will be relegated but I don't know who will be going down with them.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 04, 2022, 04:16:06 PM
Brendan Rodgers to be sacked soon?
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on September 04, 2022, 04:38:21 PM
Meanwhile, some absolute shockers from VAR again. The best league in the world has the worst officials in the world. Corrupt as fuck!

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62783142
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on September 04, 2022, 05:11:03 PM
Btw, does anyone else here think Tuchel looks like a meth head? That's the only conclusion I can come to, because having looked at the video he still thinks Bowen fouled Mendy. What hope do we have when the managers don't call the bad decisions even if they go their way?
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 04, 2022, 05:13:28 PM
This is just taking the piss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62783917
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on September 05, 2022, 12:41:03 PM
Brendan Rodgers to be sacked soon?

It's not looking good for him.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on September 07, 2022, 11:47:30 AM
Tuchel gone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62817993
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on September 07, 2022, 02:18:45 PM
Tuchel gone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62817993

Ha! :) You beat me to it.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on September 08, 2022, 09:37:47 AM
Brendan Rogers, David Moyes and Stevie G must be feeling a bit insecure at the moment. Given that Leicester are playing Aston Villa on Saturday in a relegation battle, I expect somebody to be fired soon after.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 20, 2022, 11:08:08 PM
Brendan Rogers, David Moyes and Stevie G must be feeling a bit insecure at the moment. Given that Leicester are playing Aston Villa on Saturday in a relegation battle, I expect somebody to be fired soon after.

Gerrard gone.


Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on October 21, 2022, 10:02:43 AM
I was reading the comments on the BBC report on Arsenal's game last night (1-0 against PSV Eindhoven) and I found one that said that Arsenal are the first team to win every single game they played under one prime minister's tenure.

I think it is true of the Premier League. Arsenal last lost on the 4th of September and Liz Truss took office two days later. I haven't bothered to check any of the lower tiers though or the women's top tier except Arsenal women, who also have a 100% record in the period.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on October 22, 2022, 07:55:35 PM
Liverpool went down again, this time to Nottingham Forest. I never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but maybe Klopp is in trouble.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on October 22, 2022, 09:32:45 PM
Liverpool went down again, this time to Nottingham Forest. I never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but maybe Klopp is in trouble.

Not yet but if this average form continues maybe.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on October 23, 2022, 02:05:17 PM
Not yet but if this average form continues maybe.

That's not the worst of it. I have a bet with a friend - who is a Liverpool fan - that Liverpool will end up in the top two. I'm a bit concerned for my £10.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on November 08, 2022, 03:59:36 PM
Liverpool is allegedly up for sale

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63555465

Come on. Stop messing about. I've got my bet to win.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on November 09, 2022, 10:43:48 AM
And now asking Qatar to host the World Cup is a mistake according to Sepp Blatter

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63554507

Literally everybody knew that except the FIFA committee

Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 09, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
And now asking Qatar to host the World Cup is a mistake according to Sepp Blatter

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63554507

Literally everybody knew that except the FIFA committee
On so many levels.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on November 21, 2022, 10:47:03 AM
For better or worse, the World Cup has started. The host nation has lost its opening match for the first time ever and the BBC seems to think that is a disaster.

My predictions for the group stages:

Group A: 1 Netherlands 2 Senegal
Group B: 1 England 2 USA
Group C: 1 Argentina 2 Mexico
Group D: 1 France 2 Denmark
Group E: 1 Spain 2 Germany
Group F: 1 Belgium 2 Croatia
Group G: 1 Brazil 2 Switzerland
Group H: 1 Portugal, 2 Uruguay
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on November 23, 2022, 12:32:25 PM
Bit of a shock for Argentina.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ProfessorDavey on November 23, 2022, 12:56:59 PM
Bit of a shock for Argentina.
Certainly was.

And we are now getting into the territory of trying to pre-think the ease vs difficulty of each half of the drawer. I've seen comments suggesting that England would be better finishing second in their group as that would mean they'd be in a different half of the drawer if Argentina also finish second in their group.

Far too difficult to achieve this and also high risk as you are basing this on the outcomes of other games that haven't happened yet.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on November 23, 2022, 07:32:51 PM
Certainly was.

And we are now getting into the territory of trying to pre-think the ease vs difficulty of each half of the drawer. I've seen comments suggesting that England would be better finishing second in their group as that would mean they'd be in a different half of the drawer if Argentina also finish second in their group.

Far too difficult to achieve this and also high risk as you are basing this on the outcomes of other games that haven't happened yet.

And also, if Argentina can be turned over by Saudi Arabia, then there's not really any reason to fear them.

Germany lost too. Germany is in the same group as Spain, so there is a danger of them not qualifying at all.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ProfessorDavey on November 23, 2022, 09:24:46 PM
And also, if Argentina can be turned over by Saudi Arabia, then there's not really any reason to fear them.

Germany lost too. Germany is in the same group as Spain, so there is a danger of them not qualifying at all.
True.

So overthinking this could end up with neither Germany or Spain or Argentina in the half of the draw which would include group B top side.

And you are right - if England are to really progress at some point they are going to need to play a top side. If the height of ambition is quarter final I can see how you get their fortuitously with everything working in your favour. That isn't the case if the height of ambition if winner/finalist - if that's the case you'll have to play and presumably beat a top side somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on November 24, 2022, 11:23:07 AM
True.

So overthinking this could end up with neither Germany or Spain or Argentina in the half of the draw which would include group B top side.

And you are right - if England are to really progress at some point they are going to need to play a top side. If the height of ambition is quarter final I can see how you get their fortuitously with everything working in your favour. That isn't the case if the height of ambition if winner/finalist - if that's the case you'll have to play and presumably beat a top side somewhere along the line.

Yes. The ambition as beaten finalists in the Euros and beaten semi-finalists at the last World Cup must be to win. Being concerned that we might meet a strong team at an earlier stage of the knock-out is an admission that we do not have the quality and that the objective is to go as far as possible just to look good. We just need to aim to win all our matches. That simplifies everything.

On a slightly different note, I'm listening to the Rest is History podcasts about the World Cup. They've got as far as 1950, which is the first one in which England was involved. We got knocked out in the second round by the USA. Allegedly, they had one shot on goal and we hit the woodwork 11 times. The loss, which was considered the biggest upset ever at the time, was reported everywhere except in the USA and the UK. It wasn't reported in the USA because nobody cared about football there and it wasn't reported in Britain because it coincided with England's first ever loss in a test match to the West Indies.

Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on December 02, 2022, 01:16:49 PM
Looks like we are not going to have to play Germany.

Also it's shaping up to the point where even their press want to be better than ours at shredding the national team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63832705
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on December 10, 2022, 09:22:27 PM
I'm of the opinion that we should seriously consider declaring war on France now!
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Maeght on December 10, 2022, 09:33:11 PM
I'm of the opinion that we should seriously consider declaring war on France now!

We'd probably lose that too though.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on December 11, 2022, 11:12:24 AM
Now I can start enjoying the football.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on December 11, 2022, 06:50:58 PM
We'd probably lose that too though.

No way. French will surrender straight away as always.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Maeght on December 11, 2022, 07:24:59 PM
No way. French will surrender straight away as always.

Now then.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Anchorman on December 11, 2022, 07:42:46 PM
I'm of the opinion that we should seriously consider declaring war on France now!
   


Nah....long live the Auld alliance!
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 11, 2022, 07:55:54 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing Morocco win.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on December 11, 2022, 08:12:48 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing Morocco win.

I wouldn't mind that too. Something different. They have a West Ham player as well.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on December 11, 2022, 08:14:15 PM
   


Nah....long live the Auld alliance!

Booooo!😊
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on December 11, 2022, 08:16:44 PM
Now then.

I know! It was a stereotype. But why against the French! Almost anyone else would have done. Now they've got years of one upism.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Maeght on December 11, 2022, 08:24:56 PM
I know! It was a stereotype. But why against the French! Almost anyone else would have done. Now they've got years of one upism.

I understand :-)
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on December 12, 2022, 07:37:03 AM
I wouldn't mind that too. Something different. They have a West Ham player as well.
Winning the World Cup with a West Ham player would certainly be remarkable.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 12, 2022, 08:13:56 AM
Winning the World Cup with a West Ham player would certainly be remarkable.
Can't think of any off top of head for 56 years.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 12, 2022, 08:32:51 AM
Can't think of any off top of head for 56 years.
Though

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-west-ham-areola-28544203
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ProfessorDavey on December 12, 2022, 06:22:02 PM
Now they've got years of one upism.
I don't think so - World Cup 2022 won't be defined for the French by beating England. For them it will be defined as either:

France embarrassingly capitulate to Morocco - or

French final heartbreak to Croatia/Argentina - or

Triumphant France retain World Cup

The quarter final won't get a look in.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on December 14, 2022, 10:47:54 AM
I don't think so - World Cup 2022 won't be defined for the French by beating England. For them it will be defined as either:

France embarrassingly capitulate to Morocco - or

French final heartbreak to Croatia/Argentina - or

Triumphant France retain World Cup

The quarter final won't get a look in.

As Henning Wehn once said.

"England-Germany is always a big game, although for Germany there are usually much bigger games to follow".

Of course, on this occasion, Germany's defining game wasn't a much bigger game or even an England match.

The England France match will not be the one that the French remember from this World Cup.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ProfessorDavey on December 18, 2022, 06:58:40 PM
As Henning Wehn once said.

"England-Germany is always a big game, although for Germany there are usually much bigger games to follow".

Of course, on this occasion, Germany's defining game wasn't a much bigger game or even an England match.

The England France match will not be the one that the French remember from this World Cup.
They will remember that one of their players became only the second player in history to score a hat-trick in a World Cup Final and yet they still lost.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Sebastian Toe on December 18, 2022, 07:09:21 PM
They will remember that one of their players became only the second player in history to score a hat-trick in a World Cup Final and yet they still lost.
I had to laugh as Ally McCoist commented along the lines of,
The first hat trick in as WC final where the ball crossed the line for all three goals!
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 14, 2023, 12:50:43 PM
Everton directors to not attend match against Southampton because of a credible threat. WTF!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64275576
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 18, 2023, 09:53:17 PM
West Ham v Everton on Saturday - loser sacks their manager?
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on January 19, 2023, 10:25:49 AM
West Ham v Everton on Saturday - loser sacks their manager?

I'm going for a really bad draw, because that, a loss for Southampton and a loss for Bournemouth might see the bottom four managers getting fired.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 23, 2023, 01:04:08 PM
David Moyes on Frank Lampard "I hope he stays - he should be given the chance to prove he can do it"
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on January 23, 2023, 04:08:03 PM
David Moyes on Frank Lampard "I hope he stays - he should be given the chance to prove he can do it"

I think he's proved he can't - to the satisfaction of the Everton board, anyway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63610629

NB: I wasn't sure if you knew about it when you posted.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on January 23, 2023, 04:14:55 PM
Fat Frank is the seventh EPL manager to be sacked or depart* this season.

https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2021/10/what-managers-have-been-sacked-this-season

For reference, only ten managers were sacked during the whole of last season.

Graham Potter may be in danger of being sacked twice. Actually I think Graham Potter left Brighton.

*The seven includes Graham Potter leaving Brighton.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 23, 2023, 06:37:07 PM
I think he's proved he can't - to the satisfaction of the Everton board, anyway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63610629

NB: I wasn't sure if you knew about it when you posted.
He was still there when I posted.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 23, 2023, 06:37:44 PM
Of course...
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 23, 2023, 09:54:24 PM
Proper cup upset

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64283514
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 25, 2023, 02:09:45 PM
Proper cup upset

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64283514

And the pre match team talk for Darvel.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/64380935
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 28, 2023, 07:16:51 PM
And Jim Goodwin goes after Aberdeen lose 6 nil in El Sackico
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 01, 2023, 10:50:16 AM
Ridiculous sums of money

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64473758
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 06, 2023, 02:14:59 PM
Hmmm...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536785
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 06, 2023, 06:17:08 PM
And Marsch sacked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63339426
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 12, 2023, 12:35:43 PM
Jones sacked after 3 months


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64616084
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 17, 2023, 08:28:37 PM
Bid from Qatar for Man Utd


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64684703
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 15, 2023, 11:49:06 AM
Guardiola seems in a good mood


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64960349
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 17, 2023, 12:48:20 PM
And Vieira gone


https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/announcement/club-statement-patrick-vieira/
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 21, 2023, 08:31:00 AM
And a funny sense of deja vu


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65013469
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 24, 2023, 02:46:46 AM
Barely believable numbers for Cristiano Ronaldo


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65059270
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 27, 2023, 08:03:56 AM
Conte gone


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64168691
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 29, 2023, 09:30:58 AM
And absurd numbers fron Messi as well but when you are playing a liqueur...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65108739
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on April 03, 2023, 11:01:08 AM
Conte gone


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64168691

Brendan Rogers and Graham Potter bit the dust.

I think this is probably the worst season ever for manager changes in the EPL.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 04, 2023, 04:19:13 PM
.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on April 05, 2023, 12:06:44 PM
Any guesses on the next manager to leave? I think it's between Steve Cooper and Jurgen Klopp.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 05, 2023, 09:25:30 PM
And of course Lampard to Chelsea


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65196241
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 05, 2023, 10:06:06 PM
Any guesses on the next manager to leave? I think it's between Steve Cooper and Jurgen Klopp.

Or Moyes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62784293
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on April 24, 2023, 07:10:59 PM
Or Moyes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62784293

Stellini as it turns out. He lasted only four games.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65365163
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on April 25, 2023, 04:13:51 PM
And the Spurs players will reimburse the ticket prices for the fans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65389917
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 03, 2023, 10:37:18 AM
Garcia out at Leeds, Allardyce in

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65444406
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on May 03, 2023, 01:43:36 PM
Is that 15 managerial changes now?

And there are three more scheduled for the end of the season.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 06, 2023, 06:34:38 PM
Pleasing finish in the Scottish 2nd Division
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on May 06, 2023, 07:30:58 PM
I think there's a law that says those two teams always have to finish fourth and fifth respectively.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on May 16, 2023, 07:15:01 PM
Interesting announcement from Raith Rovers
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on May 21, 2023, 11:00:17 AM
🤣
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on June 07, 2023, 10:02:58 AM
Match day today. West Ham v Fiorentina in the final of the Europa Conference League. Getting quite excited. Once in a lifetime stuff for a West Ham fan. The last time we got this far in a European competition was 1976. I was only six months old at the time. Managed to talk my boss into giving me the day off tomorrow, so I'm getting tanked up and going down the pub.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: jeremyp on June 07, 2023, 12:23:29 PM
Match day today. West Ham v Fiorentina in the final of the Europa Conference League. Getting quite excited. Once in a lifetime stuff for a West Ham fan. The last time we got this far in a European competition was 1976. I was only six months old at the time. Managed to talk my boss into giving me the day off tomorrow, so I'm getting tanked up and going down the pub.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 07, 2023, 12:25:48 PM
Good luck.
Ditto
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on June 07, 2023, 12:33:58 PM
Cheers! ;D
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 07, 2023, 01:50:58 PM
Cheers! ;D
From the European Cup Winners Final in 1976
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on June 07, 2023, 02:42:59 PM
From the European Cup Winners Final in 1976

My first West Ham hero.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 07, 2023, 02:50:33 PM
My first West Ham hero.
Brilliant player.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 08, 2023, 04:32:28 AM
Match day today. West Ham v Fiorentina in the final of the Europa Conference League. Getting quite excited. Once in a lifetime stuff for a West Ham fan. The last time we got this far in a European competition was 1976. I was only six months old at the time. Managed to talk my boss into giving me the day off tomorrow, so I'm getting tanked up and going down the pub.
Enjoy the day off.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on June 08, 2023, 09:08:46 AM
Just woke up. In the clouds! Might need a hair of the dog.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: ad_orientem on June 08, 2023, 09:15:59 AM
I've criticised him this season for our poor league form but I'm really pleased for Moyes as well. It's not easy managing all those competitions without a massive squad. I really am happy for him.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 08, 2023, 11:33:58 AM
I've criticised him this season for our poor league form but I'm really pleased for Moyes as well. It's not easy managing all those competitions without a massive squad. I really am happy for him.
It's a weird one. Could have gone down but pulled some form up at the end. And winning any European trophy is very hard. Just enjoy it.
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 12, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Given the fact that a stop of the end of the season and start for the next is not all clear cut, my suggestion is we use this thread for the Women's World Cup  and start a new one for events actually from 2023 - 24? Any comments
Title: Re: Football 2022-2023
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 12, 2023, 05:21:28 PM
JfC!


https://www.danburymint.co.uk/football/celtic/the-celtic-fc-record-breakers-treble-watch/UK-CRBTW.html