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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on December 28, 2023, 02:38:44 PM

Title: 'Strong r' in danger of disappearing across North of England, study finds
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 28, 2023, 02:38:44 PM

Will there only be holes and no rs in Blackburn, Lancashire?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67832377

Title: Re: 'Strong r' in danger of disappearing across North of England, study finds
Post by: Steve H on December 28, 2023, 02:52:37 PM

Oh well - language changes all the time. i read recently that the true cockney accent is now pretty well extinct, even in the East End of London, having been replaced by Estuary English, a sort of misbegotten semi-cockney. Also, as I've mentioned before, the Brooklyn oy-for-er pronunciation (da toity-toid boid on da choich) is apparently extinct in the wild.

Title: Re: 'Strong r' in danger of disappearing across North of England, study finds
Post by: Dicky Underpants on December 28, 2023, 04:10:56 PM

Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 28, 2023, 02:38:44 PM

Will there only be holes and no rs in Blackburn, Lancashire?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67832377

Somewhere 'up north' there used be one of the last remnants of the glottal 'r' in the back of the throat, like the standard German 'r'. Maybe there was some Yiddish influence, rather than a local peculiarity. Anybody remember hearing 'brown bread' pronounced in this way?